So I bought a gun... Few interesting facts about that...

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393907/so-i-bought-a-gun-few-interesting-facts-about-that/100#post_3506063
Can you site the law that says he can't shoot into the hillside? We can site the laws about your illegal dove shooting. And if your "non redneck" neighborhood is so restrictive they don't allow carports I seriously doubt they allow hicks with bb guns out playin bad bart on the bird population either.
I live in a gated community whereby many of the city code restrictions are not enforceable. We allow kids to drive ATV's and golf carts on the street. There's a city ban on shooting fireworks in the city limits, but we allow fireworks to be fired within the community. We have set speed limits on our roads, but are only enforceable by the residents of the community, not by the city police or sheriffs dept. I actually see kids shooting BB guns and pellet guns all the time on their property. It's called a residential life in the country. I have one of the smaller lots in the community. Most are anywhere between 3 - 8 acres. I have two neighbors that stall horses on their property. The kids ride around on them practically every day. We have a major problem with overpopulation of deer. You have to put up protection on any kind of plants or bushes, or the "rodents" will eat anything they can get to. We had a discussion about performing a "thinning of the herd" by allowing some of the resident bow hunters to take several of the bucks down, but the PETA-lovers wouldn't have any of that. So now we've hired a firm that sets up nets to trap them, puts them in trailers, and releases them out in the Hill Country on designated ranches where the owners are looking to improve their deer stock for their various hunting leases.
And you try making a big deal about me plunking around with a BB gun, and you have some "friend" letting his kid shoot a long bow in his backyard, and you have no problem with that?
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/393907/so-i-bought-a-gun-few-interesting-facts-about-that/100#post_3506072
Bionicarm.....I've had more foxhole time and range time than you'll ever see.....It's quite obvious from your stance on guns......and your stuck up nose to everyone.....Your always right.....
Thank you. I'm glad you see it my way. Now go get on your soapbox with all your other friends that your life will cease to exist if the government ever did manage to restrict your rights to shoot up thousands of dollars on little innocent targets. I mean, there's no other crucial political impacts occuring in this nation today that are more important than worrying if you can run down to your local foxhole on a weekly basis to blow $100 in 20 minutes.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/393907/so-i-bought-a-gun-few-interesting-facts-about-that/100#post_3506087
Which species of bird digs lead out of a limestone rock hillside. Just curious. Not that I really care. After all, you are much more responsible and upstanding citizen than I am.
So the only wildlife found in this region where this hillside is at are birds? If so, I wonder where all the other wild animals disappeared to? Maybe dying of lead poisoning?
 

acrylic51

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393907/so-i-bought-a-gun-few-interesting-facts-about-that/120#post_3506165
Thank you. I'm glad you see it my way. Now go get on your soapbox with all your other friends that your life will cease to exist if the government ever did manage to restrict your rights to shoot up thousands of dollars on little innocent targets. I mean, there's no other crucial political impacts occuring in this nation today that are more important than worrying if you can run down to your local foxhole on a weekly basis to blow $100 in 20 minutes.
The only 1 on a soap box is you.....I shoot the birds from crapping on my car....In my neighborhood !!!!!!
You just like to argue, and you have all the answers!!!!! That's been obviously pointed out here numerous times!!!!!!
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393907/so-i-bought-a-gun-few-interesting-facts-about-that/120#post_3506162
I live in a gated community whereby many of the city code restrictions are not enforceable. We allow kids to drive ATV's and golf carts on the street. There's a city ban on shooting fireworks in the city limits, but we allow fireworks to be fired within the community. We have set speed limits on our roads, but are only enforceable by the residents of the community, not by the city police or sheriffs dept. I actually see kids shooting BB guns and pellet guns all the time on their property. It's called a residential life in the country. I have one of the smaller lots in the community. Most are anywhere between 3 - 8 acres. I have two neighbors that stall horses on their property. The kids ride around on them practically every day. We have a major problem with overpopulation of deer. You have to put up protection on any kind of plants or bushes, or the "rodents" will eat anything they can get to. We had a discussion about performing a "thinning of the herd" by allowing some of the resident bow hunters to take several of the bucks down, but the PETA-lovers wouldn't have any of that. So now we've hired a firm that sets up nets to trap them, puts them in trailers, and releases them out in the Hill Country on designated ranches where the owners are looking to improve their deer stock for their various hunting leases.
And you try making a big deal about me plunking around with a BB gun, and you have some "friend" letting his kid shoot a long bow in his backyard, and you have no problem with that?
You're 80 percent BS and the rest exaggeration.
 

scarecrow

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I too believe that this is crazy, why in times like this do some people have to act like this , I agree that the survivors of this horrible crime will suffer for a lifetime but why blame the state? From what I understood the school did have proper security and that he broke in through a window!!
 

darthtang aw

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AllHow much of that lead to you think is embedded?  With you shooting at some 35 degree or higher trying to pick off clay targets, you could probably walk out into that field and find pieces of lead lying around all over the place.
all of it is embedded. In facts we usually find our bullets.
 

dragonzim

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I too just picked up my very first firearm this weekend as an early birthday present for myself. got a Mossberg Maverick 88 Security 12 gauge shotgun. 18 inch barrel for ease of use as a home defense weapon but also fully customizable with just about any of Mossbergs many accessories to make it into just about any type of gun I could want out of a shotgun. Haven't fired it yet, will most likely take it to the range with a buddy of mine in the next week or 2. I have a hard, locking case on order and will not even be bringing any ammo into the house until I get the case and can lock it up. For now, my intention is that my 3 year old twins never even know its in the house for at least a few years
 

reefraff

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You might check locally for a Stackon (brand name) gun locker. You can get them for a little over 100.00. It's a steel locking cabinet you can put in the back of a closet and can lag bolt it into studs if you wish. It isn't as secure as an actual safe but it's a lot more secure than a plastic case and it you have other items you'd like to secure (jewelry, coins etc.) there would be plenty of room for that too.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by DragonZim http:///t/393907/so-i-bought-a-gun-few-interesting-facts-about-that/120#post_3506186
I too just picked up my very first firearm this weekend as an early birthday present for myself. got a Mossberg Maverick 88 Security 12 gauge shotgun. 18 inch barrel for ease of use as a home defense weapon but also fully customizable with just about any of Mossbergs many accessories to make it into just about any type of gun I could want out of a shotgun. Haven't fired it yet, will most likely take it to the range with a buddy of mine in the next week or 2. I have a hard, locking case on order and will not even be bringing any ammo into the house until I get the case and can lock it up. For now, my intention is that my 3 year old twins never even know its in the house for at least a few years
Should've bought this one. Killed "two birds with one stone". Best of both worlds.
http://www.gunsamerica.com/976552738/Mossberg_Maverick_88_12_gauge_with_18_5_28_barrels.htm#
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/393907/so-i-bought-a-gun-few-interesting-facts-about-that/120#post_3506181
All all of it is embedded. In facts we usually find our bullets.
OK, you got me on that one. So you actually go out an spend who knows how much time trying to pick up a few hundred pieces of lead every time you shoot on this property? You don't want to spend the money to go to an actual gun range where you shoot in a semi-private slot that normally has a table to put all your ammo and gear on, a scope or set of binoculars to look at each shot you make, and the opportunity to just pack up and walk out without worrying about where your projectiles end up. But you'll go out to some field with a hillside where you have to create your own stand, have to walk 300 or more yards just to stick targets on this hillside, shoot at the targets, then walk another 300 yards to pick up targets and do an Easter Egg-like hunt for spent lead. The Styx song "Too Much Time On My Hands" comes to mind...
 

morgan175

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Originally Posted by DragonZim http:///t/393907/so-i-bought-a-gun-few-interesting-facts-about-that/120#post_3506186
I too just picked up my very first firearm this weekend as an early birthday present for myself. got a Mossberg Maverick 88 Security 12 gauge shotgun. 18 inch barrel for ease of use as a home defense weapon but also fully customizable with just about any of Mossbergs many accessories to make it into just about any type of gun I could want out of a shotgun. Haven't fired it yet, will most likely take it to the range with a buddy of mine in the next week or 2. I have a hard, locking case on order and will not even be bringing any ammo into the house until I get the case and can lock it up. For now, my intention is that my 3 year old twins never even know its in the house for at least a few years
I would have got the 930 spx tactical or just the 930. Glad you are being careful. The key to a safe gun starts with education on the weapon and precaution. The wrong starts with the government having control on what we can and can have.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by morgan175 http:///t/393907/so-i-bought-a-gun-few-interesting-facts-about-that/120#post_3506243
I would have got the 930 spx tactical or just the 930. Glad you are being careful. The key to a safe gun starts with education on the weapon and precaution. The wrong starts with the government having control on what we can and can have.
So what happens when that education on the weapon doesn't work? You take the necessary precautions, but innocent people still get killed by someone that holds that weapon? We as a society just simply accept that as the norm in order to protect a selective group's right to own that weapon?
 

2quills

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Gun control is a simple matter of politics. A ban on assault riffles would open up one void only for something else to come along and fill it back in. How many "accidents" have happened with assault rifles vs hand guns?
It won't do much of anything. I'm not trying to sound like all doom and gloom but I think most politicians understand that already. They simply use the argument to push their own agendas because it sounds good for their supporters. So much for indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/393907/so-i-bought-a-gun-few-interesting-facts-about-that/120#post_3506261
Gun control is a simple matter of politics. A ban on assault riffles would open up one void only for something else to come along and fill it back in. How many "accidents" have happened with assault rifles vs hand guns?
It won't do much of anything. I'm not trying to sound like all doom and gloom but I think most politicians understand that already. They simply use the argument to push their own agendas because it sounds good for their supporters. So much for indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
Banning assault weapons would just be step one. Look at all the garbage that has been hoisted on us step by step. Welfare and medicaid, environmental regulations etc.
I still remember during a campaign back in the 90's I was asked "what was wrong with a little socialism" as far as social programs like CHIPs that were being created at the time. My answer was there was no such thing. You could never satisfy the appetite once people got the taste for the freebies as a regular part of their life and I called it dead on. Now you have more than 40 percent of tax filers who don't pay income tax while receiving government payments from earned income and child tax credits. Heck we give people free cell phones and services.
But naaaaa, they would never expand a gun ban, we can trust the government.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393907/so-i-bought-a-gun-few-interesting-facts-about-that/120#post_3506285
Banning assault weapons would just be step one. Look at all the garbage that has been hoisted on us step by step. Welfare and medicaid, environmental regulations etc.
I still remember during a campaign back in the 90's I was asked "what was wrong with a little socialism" as far as social programs like CHIPs that were being created at the time. My answer was there was no such thing. You could never satisfy the appetite once people got the taste for the freebies as a regular part of their life and I called it dead on. Now you have more than 40 percent of tax filers who don't pay income tax while receiving government payments from earned income and child tax credits. Heck we give people free cell phones and services.
But naaaaa, they would never expand a gun ban, we can trust the government.
Always the pessimist. You can take that same argument and apply it to gun ownership. Back in the 60's and 70's, the majority of gun owners were sportsmen and hunters. You didn't hear about your neighbor running down to local gun show and picking up 2 or 3 handguns, a semi-auto rifle, a shotgun, and a deer rifle to top it off in one visit. I'd say maybe 3 of 10 homes in the neighborhood I grew up in owned guns. Nowadays when one of these tragedies occur, it's a reactionary response to run down to your local gun store and buy "something". That's what the NRA and the gun advocates told you to do. "We as a society can no longer be trusted. Therefore, the only logical choice is to arm EVERYONE in the event that if faced with protecting oneself, the firearm will be the first line of defense." If all these millions of people who now own a firearm are considered "responsible gun owners", then where did all these people who commit violent crimes with guns come from? Is there some special gun shop/gun show where someone who may have any inkling of becoming violent, or decides to commit an assault crime, can go to buy a gun to use in this manner? That's the problem with the 280 million guns that are out there. You have no clue which one's will be used responsibly, or which one's will be used in a violent manner. The problem is, we allowed that amount of guns to become available so that it's to the point that it's impossible to control them. You have a problem with government expansion, but no problem with an infintesimal expansion of firearms to anyone who has the coin to buy it, even if that person has the tendencies to use it in a harmful manner.
 
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