stocklist for a 100g
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skate020
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lionfish died
woke up this morning to a dead very pale lion with his mouth open.
im tearing down the little QT that he was in, dont want to risk putting in another fish to QT in there and then having it die like the lion,
i think once the hippo tang goes in im going to get a niger trigger and maybe a puffer then eel, and that'll be it for stock
maybe not the puffer, depends on how well i can keep the nitrates down.
woke up this morning to a dead very pale lion with his mouth open.
im tearing down the little QT that he was in, dont want to risk putting in another fish to QT in there and then having it die like the lion,
i think once the hippo tang goes in im going to get a niger trigger and maybe a puffer then eel, and that'll be it for stock
maybe not the puffer, depends on how well i can keep the nitrates down.
skate020
Member
BTLDreef, you have been VERY patient and have not bugged me for pictures of the main tank.
i have some here now
i do only have a poor twin t5 unit lighting one half of the tank only at this moment in time, i have some LED's in my lounge which i need to set up and im on the case of some halides.
so no corals just yet or even live rock (except for the sump)
and, i do love m emperror like mad so there are a FEW pics of him and not many of the others
also, he has some war wounds on his face from when i first introduced the queen into the small tank, there quite visible, are they something to worry about?
i have some here now
i do only have a poor twin t5 unit lighting one half of the tank only at this moment in time, i have some LED's in my lounge which i need to set up and im on the case of some halides.
so no corals just yet or even live rock (except for the sump)
and, i do love m emperror like mad so there are a FEW pics of him and not many of the others
also, he has some war wounds on his face from when i first introduced the queen into the small tank, there quite visible, are they something to worry about?
btldreef
Moderator
Originally Posted by skate020
http:///forum/post/3261942
shall i get LR or base rock for in here?
I don't use base rock at all. All my rock in all tanks has always been entirely LR. I just like it more and have a LFS that sells me it at a great price.
You definitely want LR since the angels are grazers, so you might want to consider a mix of the two. I'd post a thread in the fish only section, list your stocklist, size of tank, and see what people recommend.
http:///forum/post/3261942
shall i get LR or base rock for in here?
I don't use base rock at all. All my rock in all tanks has always been entirely LR. I just like it more and have a LFS that sells me it at a great price.
You definitely want LR since the angels are grazers, so you might want to consider a mix of the two. I'd post a thread in the fish only section, list your stocklist, size of tank, and see what people recommend.
skate020
Member
i think i'll go with LR, as you said, my angels need it.
i found a website where they sold 50lbs of LR for $75, so i went to buy it, then came to shipping costs, $201 to ship it, no thankyou lol
my tank started to get a little cloudy and i had the lights off for 2 days and now the water is crystal clear. anybody know why that is?
im hoping to add the hippo today
i found a website where they sold 50lbs of LR for $75, so i went to buy it, then came to shipping costs, $201 to ship it, no thankyou lol
my tank started to get a little cloudy and i had the lights off for 2 days and now the water is crystal clear. anybody know why that is?
im hoping to add the hippo today
skate020
Member
hippo tang and niger have been added
the niger has been qt'd for aboout 3 weeks so is a little premature but there are no signs of anything so i took the risk,
all seems to be going well and i added some dry rock today that i had lying around just to add some more hiding places because theres 6 fish in there now and so some needed some hiding spots.
thinking now about whether i should get a puffer? or a lunare? wat you guys think?
the niger has been qt'd for aboout 3 weeks so is a little premature but there are no signs of anything so i took the risk,
all seems to be going well and i added some dry rock today that i had lying around just to add some more hiding places because theres 6 fish in there now and so some needed some hiding spots.
thinking now about whether i should get a puffer? or a lunare? wat you guys think?
btldreef
Moderator
I can't believe the live rock came to that much money with shipping! I would NEVER pay that kind of money for rock that I'm going to have to recure. My suggestion for you would be to consider seeding your own rock to keep costs down. Get a few pieces of cured rock and then you may want to try man made and seed it with the cured. I know some people locally that swear by it. I only buy cured rock, so I haven't ventured into the whole man made scene, but a lot of people do it and it's a much cheaper route. You just need to have the patience to cure the rock.
Maybe I missed something along the way, but I wasn't even aware that you bought a Niger. I may just have forgot, things have been very busy the past few weeks.
Now that you have 6 fish in there, I would wait quite a while before I considered adding the seventh. I would focus on getting more live rock in there. You're going to need it for food, filtration and territory. I would get this done before you're fish get much older/bigger.
I really don't know much about puffers, so I can't offer any advice there. I think the lunare wrasse is a beautiful fish and may be less of a bioload on the tank than a puffer would be. I'd still wait and see how your tank matures before making the decision.
Maybe I missed something along the way, but I wasn't even aware that you bought a Niger. I may just have forgot, things have been very busy the past few weeks.
Now that you have 6 fish in there, I would wait quite a while before I considered adding the seventh. I would focus on getting more live rock in there. You're going to need it for food, filtration and territory. I would get this done before you're fish get much older/bigger.
I really don't know much about puffers, so I can't offer any advice there. I think the lunare wrasse is a beautiful fish and may be less of a bioload on the tank than a puffer would be. I'd still wait and see how your tank matures before making the decision.
skate020
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yeh thats cool, yeh i have got about 8kg of cured man made LR in the sump atm.
i could even maybe make some myself? i have a lot of friends and family in the building industry who can give me a hand shaping the rocks and if i chuck them in a bucket with a PC light and protein skimmer from my QT and leave them there for a month or 2 with some cured LR and see how it goes.
around here they only sell cured LR, there's one main supplier of marine in the UK and their policy is to never sell it uncured so its abit easier, just VERY expensive.
yeh sorry i forgot to mention the niger, but yeh he's getting on fine with everyone and there are no issues with territory or anything so all is well.
yeh im not going to be getting new fish soon, i have my anniversary coming up and my girlfriend expects something nice so my funding will go toward that :/
im aware that my niger is going to pick on my clowns as it grows, so at some point i will probs have to get rid of them, but untill then they can roam free.
will try get some pics at some point over this weekend
i could even maybe make some myself? i have a lot of friends and family in the building industry who can give me a hand shaping the rocks and if i chuck them in a bucket with a PC light and protein skimmer from my QT and leave them there for a month or 2 with some cured LR and see how it goes.
around here they only sell cured LR, there's one main supplier of marine in the UK and their policy is to never sell it uncured so its abit easier, just VERY expensive.
yeh sorry i forgot to mention the niger, but yeh he's getting on fine with everyone and there are no issues with territory or anything so all is well.
yeh im not going to be getting new fish soon, i have my anniversary coming up and my girlfriend expects something nice so my funding will go toward that :/
im aware that my niger is going to pick on my clowns as it grows, so at some point i will probs have to get rid of them, but untill then they can roam free.
will try get some pics at some point over this weekend
btldreef
Moderator
I don't believe that man made live rock is all that difficult to make and it is definitely cheaper in most scenarios. You may want to look into how much man made LR aids to filtration vs actually LR, I don't know if there's a difference, but for some reason, in the back of my head, I think I've been told that before.
I think there are some man made LR recipes floating around on this forum, although searches are more difficult since the upgrade :-( If you can't find any on here, I know there's some good ones on Manhattan Reefs . com There's a few people that sell their rock on that site that have made some crazy formations.
Good luck with whichever you decide.
I think there are some man made LR recipes floating around on this forum, although searches are more difficult since the upgrade :-( If you can't find any on here, I know there's some good ones on Manhattan Reefs . com There's a few people that sell their rock on that site that have made some crazy formations.
Good luck with whichever you decide.
skate020
Member
found some recipe's, they all seem to be roughly the same.
cement with live sand and that should do it, and then curing for 5 days.
to make the shapes aparantly just mould it with polystyrene.
so i think im going to experiment with this stuff sometime this weekend or next week
also, the sump smells abit, anything i can do to sort this out?
params are all fine
cement with live sand and that should do it, and then curing for 5 days.
to make the shapes aparantly just mould it with polystyrene.
so i think im going to experiment with this stuff sometime this weekend or next week
also, the sump smells abit, anything i can do to sort this out?
params are all fine
btldreef
Moderator
Originally Posted by skate020
http:///forum/post/3265991
found some recipe's, they all seem to be roughly the same.
cement with live sand and that should do it, and then curing for 5 days.
If that's what you've read. I thought it had to cure for longer than that, but I really don't know. There's specific cement mixes they tell you to use or not use as well, right?
to make the shapes aparantly just mould it with polystyrene.
so i think im going to experiment with this stuff sometime this weekend or next week
When you do try it out, you might want to sacrifice a damsel in the QT to make sure it's good before you throw it all in your DT
also, the sump smells abit, anything i can do to sort this out?
params are all fine
As for the sump smell, try running some carbon. I swear by Boyd's Chemi Pure carbon media, I actually Prefer the ELITE version, but that's just me. My sump doesn't smell as much (except for the super skimmer I have running 24/7) and it makes the water clearer (as well as allowing me to keep many anemones in the same tank and leathers with SPS). Sometimes the sump just needs to be rinsed out, but that is such a hassle. You're not running a protein skimmer yet, right? If not, I would definitely get some carbon media in that sump, it'll help.
http:///forum/post/3265991
found some recipe's, they all seem to be roughly the same.
cement with live sand and that should do it, and then curing for 5 days.
If that's what you've read. I thought it had to cure for longer than that, but I really don't know. There's specific cement mixes they tell you to use or not use as well, right?
to make the shapes aparantly just mould it with polystyrene.
so i think im going to experiment with this stuff sometime this weekend or next week
When you do try it out, you might want to sacrifice a damsel in the QT to make sure it's good before you throw it all in your DT
also, the sump smells abit, anything i can do to sort this out?
params are all fine
As for the sump smell, try running some carbon. I swear by Boyd's Chemi Pure carbon media, I actually Prefer the ELITE version, but that's just me. My sump doesn't smell as much (except for the super skimmer I have running 24/7) and it makes the water clearer (as well as allowing me to keep many anemones in the same tank and leathers with SPS). Sometimes the sump just needs to be rinsed out, but that is such a hassle. You're not running a protein skimmer yet, right? If not, I would definitely get some carbon media in that sump, it'll help.
skate020
Member
nope, no decent skimmer just yet, i have a little one in there wich is like, a 50g one just for the extra tiny bit of help.
and yeh i think i'll try that,
im thinking of getting a pink tailed trigger. there one at the LFS about 7" long, BEAUTIFUL!!!, my QT is free atm so i could keep it in there untill i get a skimmer and that can be its QT time, (around 1-2months)
then with the 10g i can use that to test the LR, and as the cement goes, it doesnt say anything about having to use a certain type, but they recommend some brand, but of corse i cant get that because im in the UK, i will experiment with different ones and see which ones come out the best.
and i bought a filter which is about 40cm high, an internal one, took out the sponges in it and stuffed a load of carbon in there, and its abit better, i might just need to give it a rinse like you said.
although they seem ok for the minute on rock, i have like 4 big ish bits in there and at night only the angels and clowns are out cos the trigger and hippo hide to sleep
one time i thought the trigger had jumped into the overflow cos he was so well hidden
and yeh i think i'll try that,
im thinking of getting a pink tailed trigger. there one at the LFS about 7" long, BEAUTIFUL!!!, my QT is free atm so i could keep it in there untill i get a skimmer and that can be its QT time, (around 1-2months)
then with the 10g i can use that to test the LR, and as the cement goes, it doesnt say anything about having to use a certain type, but they recommend some brand, but of corse i cant get that because im in the UK, i will experiment with different ones and see which ones come out the best.
and i bought a filter which is about 40cm high, an internal one, took out the sponges in it and stuffed a load of carbon in there, and its abit better, i might just need to give it a rinse like you said.
although they seem ok for the minute on rock, i have like 4 big ish bits in there and at night only the angels and clowns are out cos the trigger and hippo hide to sleep
one time i thought the trigger had jumped into the overflow cos he was so well hidden