daddyjama
Member
I guess I'm giving the benefit of the doubt instead of a witch hunt.. I think theres two concern here1)Actually unless anyone on here has actually had a tank built by them, we can only speculate to the quality of their work and longevity of their livestock
2) if we base our opinion of real life on their reality show we only get an hour out of the weeks of prep.. That's like watching tbe jersey shore and thinking that must be what new jersey is like..
And just because there are uninformed people that will make mistakes, we should not pigeon hole the majority of people as incompetent.. Everyone on here was dumb at one time..
My Lfs store at the time told me about clown fish being dumped in freshwater tanks after finding nemo..
With the same logic on her so far why not point the pitchforks against Disney and pixar..
In happy I don't watch an hour of gravel washing..
2) if we base our opinion of real life on their reality show we only get an hour out of the weeks of prep.. That's like watching tbe jersey shore and thinking that must be what new jersey is like..
And just because there are uninformed people that will make mistakes, we should not pigeon hole the majority of people as incompetent.. Everyone on here was dumb at one time..
My Lfs store at the time told me about clown fish being dumped in freshwater tanks after finding nemo..
With the same logic on her so far why not point the pitchforks against Disney and pixar..
In happy I don't watch an hour of gravel washing..
bang guy
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Originally Posted by DaddyJama http:///t/387359/tanked/120#post_3414648
I)Actually unless anyone on here has actually had a tank built by them, we can only speculate to the quality of their work and longevity of their livestock
2) if we base our opinion of real life on their reality show we only get an hour out of the weeks of prep.. That's like watching tbe jersey shore and thinking that must be what new jersey is like..
So you don't believe the show will result in a lot of quick tank setups that result in disappointed new hobbiests? I hope you're right.
Originally Posted by DaddyJama http:///t/387359/tanked/120#post_3414648
I)Actually unless anyone on here has actually had a tank built by them, we can only speculate to the quality of their work and longevity of their livestock
2) if we base our opinion of real life on their reality show we only get an hour out of the weeks of prep.. That's like watching tbe jersey shore and thinking that must be what new jersey is like..
So you don't believe the show will result in a lot of quick tank setups that result in disappointed new hobbiests? I hope you're right.
mproctor4
Member
I'm not saying one way or another that they have poor quality tanks. I am disappointed in the way it is portrayed. I don't expect them to spend an hour showing gravel being washed. I do expect that they would show a bit of realism. They could include small amounts of information about what is involved in setting up a healthy, realistic tank. They could throw in a bit about the importance of cycling a tank, not over stocking it, and educating the owners of their tanks. They don't have to include a ton of information, just enough that people understand it is much more involved that dumping some salt in the water then throwing their fish in. They could give names of web sites or books for people interested in starting a tank and stress the importance of research before starting the hobby. For that matter the Animal Planet has their own extensive web site, why not post something responsible there?
I am not pinning it all on TV. There are uneducated people everywhere, but TV certainly fuels the fire. You can't deny that Finding Nemo certainly lead to the unnecessary demise of many marine fish. When we are talking about the care of animals, I absolutely do expect more from the Animal Planet than I do from Disney/Pixar!
I know we don't need a TV show to have people screwing up their tanks. However, I'm pretty confident that there will be many more uneducated people setting up tanks who would have never thought twice about it until they saw that show.
I am not pinning it all on TV. There are uneducated people everywhere, but TV certainly fuels the fire. You can't deny that Finding Nemo certainly lead to the unnecessary demise of many marine fish. When we are talking about the care of animals, I absolutely do expect more from the Animal Planet than I do from Disney/Pixar!
I know we don't need a TV show to have people screwing up their tanks. However, I'm pretty confident that there will be many more uneducated people setting up tanks who would have never thought twice about it until they saw that show.
bang guy
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Originally Posted by DaddyJama http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3414695
So to pin that happening all on the tv is kinda backwards IMO.
There isn't a single post in this tread that said anything like that.
Originally Posted by DaddyJama http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3414695
So to pin that happening all on the tv is kinda backwards IMO.
There isn't a single post in this tread that said anything like that.
kiefers
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Originally Posted by DaddyJama http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3414695
It may, no one knows for sure. It's easy to argue something immeasurable..
I guess ultimately what I'm getting at is that fundamentally, people don't need a tv show to screw up tank set up..
So to pin that happening all on the tv is kinda backwards IMO.
I don't believe this has been mentioned at all
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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3414703
There isn't a single post in this tread that said anything like that.
thank you
Originally Posted by DaddyJama http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3414695
It may, no one knows for sure. It's easy to argue something immeasurable..
I guess ultimately what I'm getting at is that fundamentally, people don't need a tv show to screw up tank set up..
So to pin that happening all on the tv is kinda backwards IMO.
I don't believe this has been mentioned at all
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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3414703
There isn't a single post in this tread that said anything like that.
thank you
travelerjp98
Active Member
watching it right now...
travelerjp98
Active Member
well they are setting up a reef tank now.. let's see how it goes... at least that's some progress instead of fake plastic rocks.... but I really want to see how the corals survive!
travelerjp98
Active Member
OK, they asked the stupidest question:
What is coral? a) plant b) rock c) animal
... the answer when we come back!!!
I also didn't like when they were buying fish for the asian tank they didn't show what coral/inverts they were gonna get... that would have been really interesting.
What is coral? a) plant b) rock c) animal
... the answer when we come back!!!
I also didn't like when they were buying fish for the asian tank they didn't show what coral/inverts they were gonna get... that would have been really interesting.
travelerjp98
Active Member
yay! I saw them go to an LFS and choose corals for the tank! I would have wanted them to go into more details, but it's good enough lol
travelerjp98
Active Member
wowwwwww... at some points in the show it REALLY looked fake... especially when they talk amongst themselves... it sounded like it was rehearsed dozens of times.
travelerjp98
Active Member
the ending was really cute with the little boy... now it's onto another episode!
2quills
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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3414674
So you don't believe the show will result in a lot of quick tank setups that result in disappointed new hobbiests? I hope you're right.
Good friend of mine has been a die hard freshwater hobbyist for several years now. I've tried and tried for the longest time to get him to get into the saltwater side of things with me to no avail. Now that he's been watching the show he all of a sudden wants to do a fish only with fake coral inserts tank. And interestingly enough, two more of his friends now want to do saltwater tanks with no previous hobby experience. I guess it's time to think about picking up some shares of ***** stock.
Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3414674
So you don't believe the show will result in a lot of quick tank setups that result in disappointed new hobbiests? I hope you're right.
Good friend of mine has been a die hard freshwater hobbyist for several years now. I've tried and tried for the longest time to get him to get into the saltwater side of things with me to no avail. Now that he's been watching the show he all of a sudden wants to do a fish only with fake coral inserts tank. And interestingly enough, two more of his friends now want to do saltwater tanks with no previous hobby experience. I guess it's time to think about picking up some shares of ***** stock.
kiefers
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Originally Posted by Cranberry http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3415007
I just watched it. This is such a fluff show and will influence no one.... oh, come on! It's nothing.
A "fluff" show? Lol........thats just funny
Originally Posted by Cranberry http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3415007
I just watched it. This is such a fluff show and will influence no one.... oh, come on! It's nothing.
A "fluff" show? Lol........thats just funny
mproctor4
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Originally Posted by Cranberry http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3415007
I just watched it. This is such a fluff show and will influence no one.... oh, come on! It's nothing.
Nemo was a cartoon and influenced alot of people.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
Originally Posted by Cranberry http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3415007
I just watched it. This is such a fluff show and will influence no one.... oh, come on! It's nothing.
Nemo was a cartoon and influenced alot of people.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
2quills
Well-Known Member
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Originally Posted by mproctor4 http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3415029
Nemo was a cartoon and influenced alot of people.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
Right. How many clown fish across the country in people aquariums have been named Nemo, I wonder. Like I said, I know 3 people already who weren't all that interested in saltwater aquariums all of sudden now want one.
Originally Posted by mproctor4 http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3415029
Nemo was a cartoon and influenced alot of people.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
Right. How many clown fish across the country in people aquariums have been named Nemo, I wonder. Like I said, I know 3 people already who weren't all that interested in saltwater aquariums all of sudden now want one.
kiefers
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3415035
Right. How many clown fish across the country in people aquariums have been named Nemo, I wonder. Like I said, I know 3 people already who weren't all that interested in saltwater aquariums all of sudden now want one.
Personally, loved the show (only because of the Crush dude!!) but my Clown's name is MARLEY. (As in Bob Marley) Lol.....
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/387359/tanked/140#post_3415035
Right. How many clown fish across the country in people aquariums have been named Nemo, I wonder. Like I said, I know 3 people already who weren't all that interested in saltwater aquariums all of sudden now want one.
Personally, loved the show (only because of the Crush dude!!) but my Clown's name is MARLEY. (As in Bob Marley) Lol.....
cranberry
Active Member
Ya, influenced kids who have parents that can't say no. The local state aquarium perpetuated the whole nemo with one of their displays as well as promoting inappropriate stocking. Why aren't y'all banging on the doors of the local state aquariums that are actually suppose to be for educational purposes and not entertainment like this show? It's hypocritically to "OH and AH" there and then try to beat the snot out of this show.
When I posted this pic, alot of people were like "AWESOME!", "THAT IS SO COOL" "WOW, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT DISPLAY". Now that the tanks are in a silly show and not in an educational facility, were gonna have a fit? Hypocritical my friend... hypocritical.
But people who can afford the tanks they build... they aren't watching this show.
When I posted this pic, alot of people were like "AWESOME!", "THAT IS SO COOL" "WOW, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT DISPLAY". Now that the tanks are in a silly show and not in an educational facility, were gonna have a fit? Hypocritical my friend... hypocritical.
But people who can afford the tanks they build... they aren't watching this show.