Tea Party Movement

bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/240#post_3312298
 
Do you like anything about where you live? seriously? I have never seen anyone whine more about where they live than you.
 
Actually, if my business wasn't so entrenched with the Air Force attachment I work for, I'd be out of here in a heartbeat. San Antonio has turned into a glorified Mexican barrio, with the drug cartel violence inching closer and closer every day. I've lived in Texas all my life. Initially by choice, then when I married my second wife, she had no desire to live anywhere else. I'm hoping when I get my youngest into college, I can convince her to move elsewhere.
 
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/240#post_3312292
So being against killing a human being is a religious belief? That is a stretch if I ever saw one.
 
 
So if a person of faith has an idea you are against it is what you are saying. Any laws written based on faith in a god and religion are a bad idea. This what you are saying.
 
Pretty much. There's scientific evidence that shows cultures that were around WAY before anyone practiced religion based on what you consider is the modern-day "God", would castigate and punish another 'tribe member' that committed murder against a fellow tribesman. Sometimes it would be an 'eye for an eye', and they'd kill the offender. Other times they'd just simply banish the offender from the tribe. Why was it that one instance they'd kill the person, but the next time they'd just send them away? It's called Human Nature.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/260#post_3312308
Pretty much. There's scientific evidence that shows cultures that were around WAY before anyone practiced religion based on what you consider is the modern-day "God", would castigate and punish another 'tribe member' that committed murder against a fellow tribesman. Sometimes it would be an 'eye for an eye', and they'd kill the offender. Other times they'd just simply banish the offender from the tribe. Why was it that one instance they'd kill the person, but the next time they'd just send them away? It's called Human Nature.
I just want to make this clear, any law based off of religion is wrong?
 
stdreb27

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oh san antonio isn't that bad, I've been in some mexican barrios, and well, San Antonio although struggling isn't there quite yet..
 
stdreb27

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you ever read Ann Coulter's book Godless? It is pretty funny, in it she makes the comparison of liberalism to a religion. It gets a bit salacious, but it is really funny.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/240#post_3312283
 
And you think that state and local governemnts are any less corrupt? Oh wait, "If you don't like a state or local politician, you have more control over getting them out of office." Riight. That's why the illustrious Rick Perry is running for his FOURTH term as Texas Governor. Texas being a Republican-led state for the last several decades, and there's a snowball's chance in Hell a Democratic candidate will ever get voted in here anytime soon. Perry is the leader of the "Texas Good 'Ole Boys Club", and has his hand in every major player's pocket. Keeps them happy by giving all these tax exemptions, or state funded provisions. Spends money like it grown on trees. There was this fire at the Governor's Mansion that forced him to move out while it was being repaired. It's just him and his wife now, but he went out and rented this 5,000 - 6,000 sq. ft. home in one of the most exclusive neighborhoods in Austin at the tune of $8,000 - $10,000 per month. He justified it because he needed space for his "personal assistants and CHEF". My tax dollars at work.
Meanwhile, we're looking at an $18 billion deficit next year, with no solutions on how to avoid it.
 
Several decade? Bionic,bionic. Care to tell us who controlled the Texas state legislature until what, 2002?
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/260#post_3312306
Actually, if my business wasn't so entrenched with the Air Force attachment I work for, I'd be out of here in a heartbeat. San Antonio has turned into a glorified Mexican barrio, with the drug cartel violence inching closer and closer every day. I've lived in Texas all my life. Initially by choice, then when I married my second wife, she had no desire to live anywhere else. I'm hoping when I get my youngest into college, I can convince her to move elsewhere.
 
Come on up, move to Colorado Springs. You'd love it

 
Colorado actually isn't too bad, even in the metro area here around Denver.
 
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/260#post_3312454
Several decade? Bionic,bionic. Care to tell us who controlled the Texas state legislature until what, 2002?
So what, you're now an expert on Texas politics? Believe me, the Texas Legislature operates NOTHING like the Federal Govt. It doesn't matter which party has the majority in the House or Senate, the Governor has always been 'Top Dog' here, and let's nothing get passed without his/her approval. You forget, we had Dubya as Governor before Perry from 1995 to 2000. Perry was Lt. Governor and took over in 2000 when Dubya "Moved on up to the East Side". What's significant about 2002 was that was the year the Republicans gained a majority in the House. The following year that same Legislature enacted a new redistricting map scheme whereby Democrat-heavy districts were 'shifted' to the Republicans. Can't beat them in the election? Skew the district to your favor, and that won't happen again. Like I said, I've lived here all my life. I'm acutely aware how Texas politics works. To succeed in business here in Texas, it's "who you know", and what you have to do to keep them happy if you want to exist for any extended time.
 
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/260#post_3312477
So what, you're now an expert on Texas politics? Believe me, the Texas Legislature operates NOTHING like the Federal Govt. It doesn't matter which party has the majority in the House or Senate, the Governor has always been 'Top Dog' here, and let's nothing get passed without his/her approval. You forget, we had Dubya as Governor before Perry from 1995 to 2000. Perry was Lt. Governor and took over in 2000 when Dubya "Moved on up to the East Side". What's significant about 2002 was that was the year the Republicans gained a majority in the House. The following year that same Legislature enacted a new redistricting map scheme whereby Democrat-heavy districts were 'shifted' to the Republicans. Can't beat them in the election? Skew the district to your favor, and that won't happen again. Like I said, I've lived here all my life. I'm acutely aware how Texas politics works. To succeed in business here in Texas, it's "who you know", and what you have to do to keep them happy if you want to exist for any extended time.
 
Obviously not an expert but better informed than you. Who was gov before W? I do believe that would be a Democrat. She also had a Democrat legislature. I wouldnt call that republican control.
 
So the Republicans did the same crap the Democrats had done before them, so what? Personally I think the legislative districts should be laid out on a geographical grid in every state. Enough of this drawing minority districts of political gerrymanderng.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/260#post_3312477
So what, you're now an expert on Texas politics? Believe me, the Texas Legislature operates NOTHING like the Federal Govt. It doesn't matter which party has the majority in the House or Senate, the Governor has always been 'Top Dog' here, and let's nothing get passed without his/her approval. You forget, we had Dubya as Governor before Perry from 1995 to 2000. Perry was Lt. Governor and took over in 2000 when Dubya "Moved on up to the East Side". What's significant about 2002 was that was the year the Republicans gained a majority in the House. The following year that same Legislature enacted a new redistricting map scheme whereby Democrat-heavy districts were 'shifted' to the Republicans. Can't beat them in the election? Skew the district to your favor, and that won't happen again. Like I said, I've lived here all my life. I'm acutely aware how Texas politics works. To succeed in business here in Texas, it's "who you know", and what you have to do to keep them happy if you want to exist for any extended time.
 
wow that couldn't be more wrong. The real texas power broker is the Lt. Governor. The governor basically can only sign laws and call special sessions of legislation... The Lt. Governor does everything else...
 
 
fishtaco

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Here is another example of how great this new conservatism is that you guys are all cheerleaders for. We have a long-time congressman here is Oregon that is a dem and very liberal. He has managed to stay out of any trouble and has not been caught with his hand in the cookie jar yet. Regardless he has been in office way too long and needs to go, the GOP challenger is spouting as part of his platform that the public school system needs to go, yeah great, go Tea Party. The only problem is guess what the company he owns does? It sells home-school materials. So I have the choice between a decent lib who I don't agree with on some of his platforms or a crooked from the start GOP person who I agree on very little with. Guess which way I will vote on that.
 
Fishtaco
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/260#post_3312590
Here is another example of how great this new conservatism is that you guys are all cheerleaders for. We have a long-time congressman here is Oregon that is a dem and very liberal. He has managed to stay out of any trouble and has not been caught with his hand in the cookie jar yet. Regardless he has been in office way too long and needs to go, the GOP challenger is spouting as part of his platform that the public school system needs to go, yeah great, go Tea Party. The only problem is guess what the company he owns does? It sells home-school materials. So I have the choice between a decent lib who I don't agree with on some of his platforms or a crooked from the start GOP person who I agree on very little with. Guess which way I will vote on that.
 
Fishtaco
huh? So you're complaining because a tea party guy who doesn't like public schools, also sells home schooling supplies? While Obama and the liberals have done what they've done? ok...
 
 
fishtaco

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/260#post_3312596
huh? So you're complaining because a tea party guy who doesn't like public schools, also sells home schooling supplies? While Obama and the liberals have done what they've done? ok...
 
Nope, conflict of interest is conflict of interest. Let me put this another way so a conservative can understand. Lets say Streb27 runs for office on a platform of green energy and banning non-elelctric vehicles and also owns an electric car company. Make better sense now that I have converted it over to a conservative issue?
 
 
darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/260#post_3312617
 
 
 
Where did you get that? Think you need to get your meds refilled. You've become delusional in your old age.
 
You have clearly stated any laws or legislature created due to religion are bad ideas.
 
The reason the Europeans abolished slavery? The Catholic Church pushed for it.
 
The Reason The North wanted to end Slavery/ The Quakers and Northern Baptists Pushed for this, since slavery goes against the Teachings of jesus.
 
Abraham Lincoln in many speeches during the civil war stated that "God has brought upon us this war as punishment for slavery".
 
 
 
 
 
 
So based on YOUR VIEWS AND STATEMENTS abolishing slavery due to religious beliefs was a bad thing and do not support it.
 
 
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