Tea Party Movement

[reefraff]

Maybe if people would actually listen to folks like Limbaugh and Beck instead of madam Stephi, the hip liberal psychic to get their info they would know something about the real world.
I watch Beck pretty regularly and he's never even hinted that Obama is anything but a member of Wright's F'd up church. Don't listen to Limbaugh very often so I can't say one way or another what he says, unlike some people I try to make sure I know what a person has actually said before attributing statements to them.

 

[fishtaco]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314167
Maybe if people would actually listen to folks like Limbaugh and Beck instead of madam Stephi, the hip liberal psychic to get their info they would know something about the real world.
I watch Beck pretty regularly and he's never even hinted that Obama is anything but a member of Wright's F'd up church. Don't listen to Limbaugh very often so I can't say one way or another what he says, unlike some people I try to make sure I know what a person has actually said before attributing statements to them.
I don't hold Limbaugh accountable for what he says at all, he is more than likely still doing oxycotin or at best after doing that many drugs his brain is totally fried. He is nothing more than the Cheech and Chong of the conservative party and like I have said before you guys have a serious quality control problem.
Fishtaco(my opinion is totally wrong, despite not being addicted to oxycotin)

 

[stdreb27]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314167
Maybe if people would actually listen to folks like Limbaugh and Beck instead of madam Stephi, the hip liberal psychic to get their info they would know something about the real world.
I watch Beck pretty regularly and he's never even hinted that Obama is anything but a member of Wright's F'd up church. Don't listen to Limbaugh very often so I can't say one way or another what he says, unlike some people I try to make sure I know what a person has actually said before attributing statements to them.
Rush makes fun of him for it. His whole arguement isn't so much about Wright as it is about the pattern, from seeking out marxist professors to Wright to the "SAFE" czar that was teaching middle schoolers different body parts to put where...
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/280#post_3314156
I'm curious as to why a person's religious preference should even be an issue when holding a political office. The only reason Obama even talks about Christianity is because 1 in 6 Americans thinks he's a Muslim (thanks to idiots like Limbaugh and Beck). Obama has made it quite apparent he's not the devout religious type. He doesn't put up this fascade by attending church every Sunday to make it appear he's highly religious. I've always shook my head with these politicians who make these 'photo ops' of walking out of a church every Sunday morning with spouse and kids in tow. Most of them probably couldn't even tell you what the priest or pastor said in their sermon, and could probably care less. Just as long as they put in that appearance to show the the other bible thumpers who represent the majority vote in this country that they believe in The Almighty and 'Have Religion'. So I guess you can't hold a political office in this country if you're an Atheist or Agnostic? Where exactly is that stated in the Constitution?
lol, so you don't belief Obama when he says Jesus has fundimentally influenced my life, but you do believe the crap he says about healthcare.
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Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314190
I don't hold Limbaugh accountable for what he says at all, he is more than likely still doing oxycotin or at best after doing that many drugs his brain is totally fried. He is nothing more than the Cheech and Chong of the conservative party and like I have said before you guys have a serious quality control problem.
Fishtaco(my opinion is totally wrong, despite not being addicted to oxycotin)
lol you could look at it this way, he's soo much smarter than you, even with half his brain drug induced tied behind his back, he's still more right than you are.
Still can't get over what you clue in on, and what you completely ignore. It is like I'm going to do things, bass ackwards.

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314215
Rush makes fun of him for it. His whole arguement isn't so much about Wright as it is about the pattern, from seeking out marxist professors to Wright to the "SAFE" czar that was teaching middle schoolers different body parts to put where...
lol, so you don't belief Obama when he says Jesus has fundimentally influenced my life, but you do believe the crap he says about healthcare.
lol you could look at it this way, he's soo much smarter than you, even with half his brain drug induced tied behind his back, he's still more right than you are.
Still can't get over what you clue in on, and what you completely ignore. It is like I'm going to do things, bass ackwards.
Why shouldn't I believe some of the statements he makes about health care? At least he doesn't allow his religious beliefs to influence his decisions on the issue. He's not making statements like, "I believe in a Universal Healthcare System becuase I think God would want us to have that kind of protection for our citizens." Religious-minded politicians make assanine decisons and unbelievable statements on a daily basis. So it's OK for them to 'twist the truth' about some policy of theirs just because they are religious?

 

[stdreb27]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314216
Why shouldn't I believe some of the statements he makes about health care? At least he doesn't allow his religious beliefs to influence his decisions on the issue. He's not making statements like, "I believe in a Universal Healthcare System becuase I think God would want us to have that kind of protection for our citizens." Religious-minded politicians make assanine decisons and unbelievable statements on a daily basis. So it's OK for them to 'twist the truth' about some policy of theirs just because they are religious?
lol don't you see he's claiming the whole reason he believe's in healthcare is because of "taking care of the weakest among us" A quote from Matthew.

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314219
lol don't you see he's claiming the whole reason he believe's in healthcare is because of "taking care of the weakest among us" A quote from Matthew.
I highly doubt Obama sits around at night reading Scripture to help him decide what policies are best for this country. Bible thumpers toss out lines from the Bible all day to justify their reasonings for why they do things they do, and make the decisions they make. Doesn't mean it's the right or logical way of doing it.

 

[slice]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314220
I highly doubt Obama sits around at night reading Scripture to help him decide what policies are best for this country. Bible thumpers toss out lines from the Bible all day to justify their reasonings for why they do things they do, and make the decisions they make. Doesn't mean it's the right or logical way of doing it.
Don't forget Nancy Pelosi's heartfelt admission that her favorite word is THE WORD and that she tries to bring THE WORD to life. She asked the clergy to include in sermons how THE WORD insists that the congregation support her political agenda.

 

[stdreb27]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314220
I highly doubt Obama sits around at night reading Scripture to help him decide what policies are best for this country. Bible thumpers toss out lines from the Bible all day to justify their reasonings for why they do things they do, and make the decisions they make. Doesn't mean it's the right or logical way of doing it.
geeze, you won't even stand by your own argument. At least be honest with yourself, and go after everyone that claims that they're doing things in God's name...

 

[fishtaco]

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314215
Rush makes fun of him for it. His whole arguement isn't so much about Wright as it is about the pattern, from seeking out marxist professors to Wright to the "SAFE" czar that was teaching middle schoolers different body parts to put where...
lol, so you don't belief Obama when he says Jesus has fundimentally influenced my life, but you do believe the crap he says about healthcare.
lol you could look at it this way, he's soo much smarter than you, even with half his brain drug induced tied behind his back, he's still more right than you are.
Still can't get over what you clue in on, and what you completely ignore. It is like I'm going to do things, bass ackwards.
You have a problem that I am concerned that literally millions of already angry people tune in daily and believe everything a hate mongering idiot who has fried his brain on synthetic herion has to day and form opinions based on that, yeah I'm the one with the problem. LOL
Money is not the only success in life and on all other fronts Rush is a idiot. I've not been addicted to drugs, don't have numerous failed marriages and I don't have to degrade people to pay the bills, sorry but I do really well in life without having to lower my morals, never been addicted to drugs and am still married to the girl I fell in love with when I was 15. Typical though that a conservative would form an opinion about how smart a person is by the amount of money they make. Are teachers, people in the military, scientists all dumber than Rush to because instead of preaching hate they actually do something positive with their life instead of just making fun.
It is totally okay to say Rush is an idiot Streb and I won't think you have half a brain for saying otherwise.
Fishtaco

 

[reefraff]

No, he reads the communist manifesto.
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314220
I highly doubt Obama sits around at night reading Scripture to help him decide what policies are best for this country. Bible thumpers toss out lines from the Bible all day to justify their reasonings for why they do things they do, and make the decisions they make. Doesn't mean it's the right or logical way of doing it.

 

[reefraff]

I have a bigger problem with the millions of idiots who are exposed to hate mongering from liberal establishments like our education system, the nightly news and labor unions. At least those who tune into Limbaugh do so knowingly. I've listened to him post addiction and don't think he lost a step. It might make you libs feel better to assume he is fried as Jimmy Carter but even while he was in the purple haze he made more sense than Nancy Pelosi.
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Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314252
You have a problem that I am concerned that literally millions of already angry people tune in daily and believe everything a hate mongering idiot who has fried his brain on synthetic herion has to day and form opinions based on that, yeah I'm the one with the problem. LOL
Money is not the only success in life and on all other fronts Rush is a idiot. I've not been addicted to drugs, don't have numerous failed marriages and I don't have to degrade people to pay the bills, sorry but I do really well in life without having to lower my morals, never been addicted to drugs and am still married to the girl I fell in love with when I was 15. Typical though that a conservative would form an opinion about how smart a person is by the amount of money they make. Are teachers, people in the military, scientists all dumber than Rush to because instead of preaching hate they actually do something positive with their life instead of just making fun.
It is totally okay to say Rush is an idiot Streb and I won't think you have half a brain for saying otherwise.
Fishtaco

 

[stdreb27]

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314252
You have a problem that I am concerned that literally millions of already angry people tune in daily and believe everything a hate mongering idiot who has fried his brain on synthetic herion has to day and form opinions based on that, yeah I'm the one with the problem. LOL
Money is not the only success in life and on all other fronts Rush is a idiot. I've not been addicted to drugs, don't have numerous failed marriages and I don't have to degrade people to pay the bills, sorry but I do really well in life without having to lower my morals, never been addicted to drugs and am still married to the girl I fell in love with when I was 15. Typical though that a conservative would form an opinion about how smart a person is by the amount of money they make. Are teachers, people in the military, scientists all dumber than Rush to because instead of preaching hate they actually do something positive with their life instead of just making fun.
It is totally okay to say Rush is an idiot Streb and I won't think you have half a brain for saying otherwise.
Fishtaco
Eventually you'll figure out, that I really don't care what you think about me, most of the people you don't like I identify with... Now that being said, You're going to key on some guy on the radio, and his personal life, while we have people in office, that are literally destroying the country. Personally and now this is just me, some guy on the radio who got hooked on pills, and had done something 55% of married couples has done, is no where NEAR as bad as some guy with actual power, running around destroying the country as founded. Some guy on the radio, or some guy getting put in charge of a sexual abuse organization telling Jr highers how to fist. Popping pills and loosing your hearing, or nationalizing health care... But hey is just this simple ol me logic from south texas...
And actually Rush is a genius. He's the one political personality who I've heard that actually makes a logical argument... It has nothing to do with his money, (btw Soros is a rich fool...)

 

[fishtaco]

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314272
Eventually you'll figure out, that I really don't care what you think about me, most of the people you don't like I identify with... Now that being said, You're going to key on some guy on the radio, and his personal life, while we have people in office, that are literally destroying the country. Personally and now this is just me, some guy on the radio who got hooked on pills, and had done something 55% of married couples has done, is no where NEAR as bad as some guy with actual power, running around destroying the country as founded. Some guy on the radio, or some guy getting put in charge of a sexual abuse organization telling Jr highers how to fist. Popping pills and loosing your hearing, or nationalizing health care... But hey is just this simple ol me logic from south texas...
And actually Rush is a genius. He's the one political personality who I've heard that actually makes a logical argument... It has nothing to do with his money, (btw Soros is a rich fool...)
So as long as I preach the conservative dogma I can pretty much conduct myself in any way I want? Great, I am going to talk a bunch of crap, start taking drugs and get married at least twice more, but as long as I tell Streb what strokes his ego, I am going to be rich.
It has everything to do with his money Streb27, that is why his arse was not put in jail for his drug involvement. Let me know when you grow some morals and can actually make mature choices in those you think can run the country. Your doing the same exact thing we did two years ago, voting for subgrade and pretty radical far-right canidates simply because they are not Obama.
Saying that Rush is merely a radio host is also pretty much not being truthful, the GOP is terrified by this guy and the power he has within the party. Please name one conservative who has not bent down and kissed this greasy pigs ring finger.
Fishtaco(I remember when I was young and conservative.......and asleep)

 

[stdreb27]

lol, dude, come on, no one goes to jail for doing drugs. (not that I agree with that but it isn't the conservative's fault that drug usage isn't a prison term...) If they break probation... That is a whole different story. Wasn't it bill Clinton (another rich person who's a moron and democrat, oh and I almost forgot philanderer) who at Robert Byrd's funeral justified his involvement in the KKK as just doing what needed to be done to get elected... You're the one accusing me of mixing morality/religion with politics, and look who's really doing it...
The reality is, Rush isn't president, Rush can't pass laws to tax the crap out of you, he can't pass laws to destroy our healthcare system, to issue an executive order and shut down drilling in the gulf... He hold's no political office...
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Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314276
So as long as I preach the conservative dogma I can pretty much conduct myself in any way I want? Great, I am going to talk a bunch of crap, start taking drugs and get married at least twice more, but as long as I tell Streb what strokes his ego, I am going to be rich.
It has everything to do with his money Streb27, that is why his arse was not put in jail for his drug involvement. Let me know when you grow some morals and can actually make mature choices in those you think can run the country. Your doing the same exact thing we did two years ago, voting for subgrade and pretty radical far-right canidates simply because they are not Obama.
Saying that Rush is merely a radio host is also pretty much not being truthful, the GOP is terrified by this guy and the power he has within the party. Please name one conservative who has not bent down and kissed this greasy pigs ring finger.
Fishtaco(I remember when I was young and conservative.......and asleep)

 

[fishtaco]

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314279
lol, dude, come on, no one goes to jail for doing drugs. (not that I agree with that but it isn't the conservative's fault that drug usage isn't a prison term...) If they break probation... That is a whole different story. Wasn't it bill Clinton (another rich person who's a moron and democrat, oh and I almost forgot philanderer) who at Robert Byrd's funeral justified his involvement in the KKK as just doing what needed to be done to get elected... You're the one accusing me of mixing morality/religion with politics, and look who's really doing it...
The reality is, Rush isn't president, Rush can't pass laws to tax the crap out of you, he can't pass laws to destroy our healthcare system, to issue an executive order and shut down drilling in the gulf... He hold's no political office...
Yet again you assume that I approve of bad behavior from any politician and I do not like Clinton at all and you really can't comprehend that my frustration with conservatives is that yes, somebody like Reid needs to be replaced and you run Sharon Angle, somebody with the potential to be even worse as far a taking away personnal freedoms despite being a solid Tea Party person due to her extreme views. Meanwhile, a couple of good Christian family value politicians like Vitter and Ensign will have no problem keeping their seats as long as they tell you what you want to hear, despite being complete dirtbags.
You underestimate Independant voters Streb27, people like myself are not going to ever vote conservative or liberal just because somebody comes in a room and spouts the dogma I want to hear and declares themselves the smartest person in the room, which is something that the conservatives here also think they can get away with. Basically at this point in history, party loyalty is a joke and those that believe in it like yourself are going to look foolish.
What I see is the GOP will regain some power and two seconds later the Dems will be the party of NO, it is a repeating cycle that needs to be broken and until both sides of the arguement can agree and rally behind a point like term limits and leave social issues in the home among family and at church if they go and out of politics thats not going to happen.
Fishtaco

 

[stdreb27]

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314289
Yet again you assume that I approve of bad behavior from any politician and I do not like Clinton at all and you really can't comprehend that my frustration with conservatives is that yes, somebody like Reid needs to be replaced and you run Sharon Angle, somebody with the potential to be even worse as far a taking away personnal freedoms despite being a solid Tea Party person due to her extreme views. Meanwhile, a couple of good Christian family value politicians like Vitter and Ensign will have no problem keeping their seats as long as they tell you what you want to hear, despite being complete dirtbags.
You underestimate Independant voters Streb27, people like myself are not going to ever vote conservative or liberal just because somebody comes in a room and spouts the dogma I want to hear and declares themselves the smartest person in the room, which is something that the conservatives here also think they can get away with. Basically at this point in history, party loyalty is a joke and those that believe in it like yourself are going to look foolish.
What I see is the GOP will regain some power and two seconds later the Dems will be the party of NO, it is a repeating cycle that needs to be broken and until both sides of the arguement can agree and rally behind a point like term limits and leave social issues in the home among family and at church if they go and out of politics thats not going to happen.
Fishtaco
(I wasn't pointing out Rich democrat's flaws as a hypocracy implying support on your part) I was doing it 2 fold, one to point out your flawed argument that conservatives completely equate success to riches... A TERRIBLE argument. And 2 I think some of the stuff you key in on is bass ackwards...

 

[reefraff]

Republicans will, I think, get a chance to get it right. If they take congress and do battle with Obama it will depend on Obama what the ultimate fate of the Republicans will be. If Obama works with Republicans in a meaningful way I think he probably gets re elected and Republicans hold the house and take the Senate next time around. If he and the Democrats take their turn at being the party of no Obama will be one and done and we'll return to Republicans running the whole show which might not be as bad as what we've seen the last couple years but not something I want to see.
Personally I'd like to see a Republican house and President with a Democrat senate and see what happens but I think numbers in the 2012 elections make it likely the Republicans take the Senate unless there is a complete role reversal as far as the current political climate.
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Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314289
Yet again you assume that I approve of bad behavior from any politician and I do not like Clinton at all and you really can't comprehend that my frustration with conservatives is that yes, somebody like Reid needs to be replaced and you run Sharon Angle, somebody with the potential to be even worse as far a taking away personnal freedoms despite being a solid Tea Party person due to her extreme views. Meanwhile, a couple of good Christian family value politicians like Vitter and Ensign will have no problem keeping their seats as long as they tell you what you want to hear, despite being complete dirtbags.
You underestimate Independant voters Streb27, people like myself are not going to ever vote conservative or liberal just because somebody comes in a room and spouts the dogma I want to hear and declares themselves the smartest person in the room, which is something that the conservatives here also think they can get away with. Basically at this point in history, party loyalty is a joke and those that believe in it like yourself are going to look foolish.
What I see is the GOP will regain some power and two seconds later the Dems will be the party of NO, it is a repeating cycle that needs to be broken and until both sides of the arguement can agree and rally behind a point like term limits and leave social issues in the home among family and at church if they go and out of politics thats not going to happen.
Fishtaco

 

[darthtang aw]

Looks like bionic fled the scene and refused to answer anymore questions challenging his hypocrisy.
Fishtaco, i got a question for you.
name the last 2 Presidents you liked or respected...doesnt have to be in your lifetime.
List senators you support and respect.
List any other politicians or political personalities you respect as well.

 

[stdreb27]

The funny thing is, if our founder's had done what you'd have a christian do, our country would have never been founded. The whole point, was endowed with our creator with unalienable rights for life liberty and pursuit of happiness... This whole thing was founded on what God told em was their rights as human beings...

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/300#post_3314309
Looks like bionic fled the scene and refused to answer anymore questions challenging his hypocrisy.
Fishtaco, i got a question for you.
name the last 2 Presidents you liked or respected...doesnt have to be in your lifetime.
List senators you support and respect.
List any other politicians or political personalities you respect as well.
Sorry Darth. Unlike you, I actually have to work some time to make a living.

What hypocrisy? Disease Boy claims Obama bases his decisions on healthcare because he wants to "help the weak", and this phrase originates from some Bible passage. If I think I can benefit from the new health plan, and it's cheaper for me to go that route as opposed to sticking with the insurance I have now, I'll use the new plan. So you're saying I'd be one of these poor, weak individuals in this country that needs low-cost health insurance?

That is rich.
The only reason Obama is where he is today is because the majority of Americans were sick and tired of the Republican ideologies, and the direction they were sending this country. Plain and simple. If there wasn't this vile hated for Dubya and his 'good 'ole boy arrogant attitude', Obama probably wouldn't be POTUS today. Now that a Democrat is running the Big Show, the Republicans and Conservatives have done everything possible to trash the guy, using any means possible, preferably media outets and mogels like Limbaugh and Rush. If you honestly think Limbaugh doesn't influence the thinking of the current Conservative Right that sits in Congress, you are a bumbling idiot and fool. If the guy ran for a Congressional seat, he'd probably have a good chance at winning. There's enough of his followers and 'free thinkers' like him who would be stupid enough to vote him in. The only reason Limbaugh doesn't run is because he'd have to take a massive paycut, and would essentially be an insignificant fly on the wall due to his political inexperience.
Based on the various polls and such you read these days, I imagine the Republicans will end up getting the majority in either the Senate or House come November. This will appease the Republican Obama Haters Club to some degree. If they manage to oust Obama in 2012, we'll be back to the same state we were in when Bush was running the show. Then it'll be the Democrats and Independents turn to start their trash campaign on whoever the Republicans or Tea party manage to get into that seat. It's the same old cycle all over again.