This guy wants to be president?

stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2699662
Thats were you are wrong... We are not blind... We are actually more active and more informed than ever before. People use to say they are better off in the current Bush Admin, then they were during Clinton era.... I am sure not to many people can say that now... Probably about 5% of people who are the rich. Point is, we want change in a changing world... Now a President is not going to change everything or make it all better... but what is different is that Obama inspires us to be better and to take control of our duties in our own lives and country... McCain does not have this ability... this is why Obama gets the comparisons to Kennedy.
I'm not attacking you, but you make no sense.
People use to say they are better off in the current Bush Admin, then they were during Clinton era.... I am sure not to many people can say that now... Probably about 5% of people who are the rich.
One where do you get these numbers? And even assuming they are accurate how does that make your point?
Two are the rich not americans do then not to deserve to better themselves? Why discount them? After all, Obama is rich...
Three obama is going around practically promising that he can change whatever it is you think needs changing. Or at least he is being reported as such.
BTW you never answered the question. Why propose a "surge" in Afghanistan if the "surge" didn't work in Iraq?
 
texasmetal

texasmetal

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I don't have and won't pretend to have all the answers, but...
What we need to do is quit dividing ourselves with labels and all agree that what we are wanting and needing is to improve the country for everyone. We need to stop handing our wishes over to representatives who could care less about our wishes because they have their own agendas.
 
mgatdog

mgatdog

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Originally Posted by nwdyr
http:///forum/post/2699339
"we" as voters in this country have little or no effect on choosing the next Tony Soprano of this country. They lie...they steal...they send out the youth of America (a.k.a. our CHILDREN) to become killers for there own benefit, then pretend it was for our "freedom" Flip a coin and cast a vote b/c they are both liars and are not going to do ANYTHING that has a positive effect on how you and I pay our rent or raise our children. These men are just gang leaders , with BIG gangs!
That's another good way to put it.
 
mgatdog

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Originally Posted by TexasMetal
http:///forum/post/2699742
I don't have and won't pretend to have all the answers, but...
What we need to do is quit dividing ourselves with labels and all agree that what we are wanting and needing is to improve the country for everyone. We need to stop handing our wishes over to representatives who could care less about our wishes because they have their own agendas.
100% agreed
 
mgatdog

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[QUOTE=1journeyman;2698663
I've met a lot of good people over here Rylan. They are supporters of the coalition forces. They and their families live in the IZ and work to support our mission. They are alive because Al Qaeda can't get to them in here. If we withdraw prematurely they will be slaughtered. Do you understand the ramification of that? Can you understand that?
That's sad .Here is another tear jerker.While many people retire here in USA are loosing there health benefits.Which they worked hard for and the big corps can't pay because they got to worry about the stock holders(the rich) . I guess thats all right the retire people can die because of no health benefits.Just another casualty in USA.SEND MORE TO HELP OUT OTHER PEOPLE P_SS ON THE TAX PAYER IN THE US.Seems like our gov needs help here.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by mgatdog
http:///forum/post/2699842
That's sad .Here is another tear jerker.While many people retire here in USA are loosing there health benefits.Which they worked hard for and the big corps can't pay because they got to worry about the stock holders(the rich) . I guess thats all right the retire people can die because of no health benefits.Just another casualty in USA.SEND MORE TO HELP OUT OTHER PEOPLE P_SS ON THE TAX PAYER IN THE US.Seems like our gov needs help here.
yawn, care to site this?
And have you ever heard of this government program called oh what was it, umm it is on the tip of my... Medicare and Medicaid?
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by mgatdog
http:///forum/post/2699842
That's sad .Here is another tear jerker.While many people retire here in USA are loosing there health benefits.Which they worked hard for and the big corps can't pay because they got to worry about the stock holders(the rich) . I guess thats all right the retire people can die because of no health benefits.Just another casualty in USA.SEND MORE TO HELP OUT OTHER PEOPLE P_SS ON THE TAX PAYER IN THE US.Seems like our gov needs help here.

Only "rich" people own stocks? Do you have a 401K? Guess that makes you rich.
A company can't just eliminate benefits for retirees, especially not to boost the price of their stock. If that could happen General motors wouldn't be in the shape they are.
 
chilwil84

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1st with iraq they still cant get the kurds to vote so they arent gonna get a full national election for at least a year so having an exact timetable in months is worthless until they can get them involved
2nd you can say all you want on tax as amounts but bush's tax cut cut the rates more in the middle and lower than the upper class, just because the final amount of tax brake was higher for upper class is because they pay more they still got a lower rate reduction.
3rd i am pretty sure the over seas trip has made the election a dead heat
4th DRILL DRILL DRILL
 
oscardeuce

oscardeuce

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2699656
I'm going to disagree... 1st of all McCain told him he needed to go overseas. 2nd McCain has also given speeches in Mexico, Middle East, Canada, and I think Columbia. So how much time should he have taken to speak about Germany?
Yes, but Obama directly compared himself to previous PRESIDENTS who made speeches. This guy is so full of himself I think he will burst. His opening line referred to Reagan and Kennedy, not the men and women who fought Hilter. The funny thing to me is Regean and Kennedy were there to fight socialism and communism, while Obama is there to bring his brand of socialism to the USA.
Obama needs more than 143 days of experience.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2698608
I really don't care anymore about all the hate all you haters are expressing...
You Republicans are done!

We'll welcome you if you want to join the movement...
I'l be doing this :
all the way to the polls... the last one will because of it being historically significant.

Why would a Republcan, most being conservative want to join a Marxist movement?
I'd also be careful about accusing others of hate when you are supporting a candidate who is in bed with the likes of Wright and Pfligger.
 
oscardeuce

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Rylan,
I do not "hate" Obama, I think he is the polar opposite of the ideals on which this country was founded. I use his own words and ideas to illustrate my points.
How is that "hate"?
 
1journeyman

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Originally Posted by mgatdog
http:///forum/post/2699842
That's sad .Here is another tear jerker.While many people retire here in USA are loosing there health benefits.Which they worked hard for and the big corps can't pay because they got to worry about the stock holders(the rich) . I guess thats all right the retire people can die because of no health benefits.Just another casualty in USA.SEND MORE TO HELP OUT OTHER PEOPLE P_SS ON THE TAX PAYER IN THE US.Seems like our gov needs help here.
Unfortunately that is heavy on fear and light on facts.
Our Nation has several different safety nets in place. Does everyone get the best care? No. That said, people need to take care of themselves and not depend on corporations or "big brother" to take care of their needs.
 
jmick

jmick

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2700749
Unfortunately that is heavy on fear and light on facts.
Our Nation has several different safety nets in place. Does everyone get the best care? No. That said, people need to take care of themselves and not depend on corporations or "big brother" to take care of their needs.
Funny, when it comes to your fellow Americans you're content that everyone take care of themselves and if some people fall through the cracks so be it. However, when it comes to a foreign nation that has its own sovereign government you're all for over government and military to play "big brother".
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2700762
Funny, when it comes to your fellow Americans you're content that everyone take care of themselves and if some people fall through the cracks so be it. However, when it comes to a foreign nation that has its own sovereign government you're all for over government and military to play "big brother".
I fail to see how removing a rapist murdering dictator is playing "big brother." I feel you though man, we should have just left Sadaam there, until another democrat got into office and let a dem remove him, so you could agree with the war...
 
mgatdog

mgatdog

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2699876
yawn, care to site this?
And have you ever heard of this government program called oh what was it, umm it is on the tip of my... Medicare and Medicaid?
Da!!!!! .Yeh if you was on it you would find out it doesn't pay for crap.DIP S_ _ _
 
jmick

jmick

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2700768
I fail to see how removing a rapist murdering dictator is playing "big brother." I feel you though man, we should have just left Sadaam there, until another democrat got into office and let a dem remove him, so you could agree with the war...
I thought we invaded Iraq because Sadam had weapons of mass destruction and he was a threat to our security and he was harboring terrorists? What about dictators such as Kim Jong-IL, Khamenei, Mugabe, Than Shwe or Al-Bashir, how should we handle them? Let’s face it, there are a lot of evil men in this world who sponsor terrorists, oppress their people and commit atrocities and I don't see our country going into war.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2700786
I thought we invaded Iraq because Sadam had weapons of mass destruction and he was a threat to our security and he was harboring terrorists? What about dictators such as Kim Jong-IL, Khamenei, Mugabe, Than Shwe or Al-Bashir, how should we handle them? Let’s face it, there are a lot of evil men in this world who sponsor terrorists, oppress their people and commit atrocities and I don't see our country going into war.
Your party can't have it both ways
You want us to invade everyone, or should we try 17 years of diplomacy again? Remember the "stick and the Carrot" method that we aren't doing with Iran right now?
 
mgatdog

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The last time I checked labs in us was able to train a monkey in 2 to 3 yrs for them to do certain jobs . What taking so long over there .As I said before .Dem and Rep have there puppets to get people brain wash into what they want and say to be the truth.
 
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