darthtang aw
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You are clearly incapable of giving an answer based off your own feelings or thoughts...listen to obama much?
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veni vidi vici
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2879792
You are clearly incapable of giving an answer based off your own feelings or thoughts...listen to obama much?
Sorry no ,i voted for McCain/Palin.Im a proud Union Republican.
I did just answer your question,sorry if you didn't like the answer. AGAIN!!!!! It would be up to the military to decide,I'm not in the military so i wouldn't get to vote yes or no. So i guess you are clearly incapable of comprehension of words in sentences or didn't read what i posted.
http:///forum/post/2879792
You are clearly incapable of giving an answer based off your own feelings or thoughts...listen to obama much?
Sorry no ,i voted for McCain/Palin.Im a proud Union Republican.
I did just answer your question,sorry if you didn't like the answer. AGAIN!!!!! It would be up to the military to decide,I'm not in the military so i wouldn't get to vote yes or no. So i guess you are clearly incapable of comprehension of words in sentences or didn't read what i posted.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2879759
2 years is fresh?Maybe if a guy still in his gown with diploma in hand replaces you ,you'll think differently.
It is all part of the game, get yourself involved where they can't just easily replace you...
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2879759
Dont you think thats a little arogant?Who told you that your more valueable to the company than what they pay you?Or do you just assume you are.Matbe your boss wont think so when that guy wearing the gown comes walking through the door.
Not at all, it isn't arrogant if you can back it up...
If I wasn't worth it, I wouldn't have been able to negotiate a raise... And I wouldn't still have a job. (they just audited that after we got bought out a few months ago.)
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2879759
Maybe just a tad underpaid?I dont think all any profession is lazy ,thats just absurd.
What type is that?Citizens?
Thugs and criminals. Can be some dirty nasty individuals. I think they have a pretty fair pay system (at least here) where living expenses aren't rediculous. you can easily make 60-90 thousand as a cop in houston.
http:///forum/post/2879759
2 years is fresh?Maybe if a guy still in his gown with diploma in hand replaces you ,you'll think differently.
It is all part of the game, get yourself involved where they can't just easily replace you...
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2879759
Dont you think thats a little arogant?Who told you that your more valueable to the company than what they pay you?Or do you just assume you are.Matbe your boss wont think so when that guy wearing the gown comes walking through the door.
Not at all, it isn't arrogant if you can back it up...
If I wasn't worth it, I wouldn't have been able to negotiate a raise... And I wouldn't still have a job. (they just audited that after we got bought out a few months ago.)
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2879759
Maybe just a tad underpaid?I dont think all any profession is lazy ,thats just absurd.
What type is that?Citizens?
Thugs and criminals. Can be some dirty nasty individuals. I think they have a pretty fair pay system (at least here) where living expenses aren't rediculous. you can easily make 60-90 thousand as a cop in houston.
veni vidi vici
Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2879813
It is all part of the game, get yourself involved where they can't just easily replace you...
HA! i hope not for your sake.Ill bet you can find a few guys who thought the same thing at the unemployment office though
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2879813
Not at all, it isn't arrogant if you can back it up...
If I wasn't worth it, I wouldn't have been able to negotiate a raise... And I wouldn't still have a job. (they just audited that after we got bought out a few months ago.)
Same can be said about Unions my friend.No profit no Union Contract,so i guess maybe some of us earn and deserve our wages .
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2879813
Thugs and criminals. Can be some dirty nasty individuals. I think they have a pretty fair pay system (at least here) where living expenses aren't rediculous. you can easily make 60-90 thousand as a cop in houston.
I would say closer to the 60K mark is more likely.Not much of a hazard pay as far as I'm concerned for dealing with dangerous criminals, and for me personally Will and Cook county are 2 of the highest cost of living counties in the country.60k barley keeps me out of the poor house if I'm not careful.
http:///forum/post/2879813
It is all part of the game, get yourself involved where they can't just easily replace you...
HA! i hope not for your sake.Ill bet you can find a few guys who thought the same thing at the unemployment office though
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2879813
Not at all, it isn't arrogant if you can back it up...
If I wasn't worth it, I wouldn't have been able to negotiate a raise... And I wouldn't still have a job. (they just audited that after we got bought out a few months ago.)
Same can be said about Unions my friend.No profit no Union Contract,so i guess maybe some of us earn and deserve our wages .
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2879813
Thugs and criminals. Can be some dirty nasty individuals. I think they have a pretty fair pay system (at least here) where living expenses aren't rediculous. you can easily make 60-90 thousand as a cop in houston.
I would say closer to the 60K mark is more likely.Not much of a hazard pay as far as I'm concerned for dealing with dangerous criminals, and for me personally Will and Cook county are 2 of the highest cost of living counties in the country.60k barley keeps me out of the poor house if I'm not careful.
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2879803
I did just answer your question,sorry if you didn't like the answer. AGAIN!!!!! It would be up to the military to decide,I'm not in the military so i wouldn't get to vote yes or no. So i guess you are clearly incapable of comprehension of words in sentences or didn't read what i posted.
I asked if YOU thought the military should be union. Not if the military wanted a union. You did not answer the question. You believe unions to be a good thing, then shouldn't they be good for all professions is my point. If you think unions are good...then you should be able to answer if YOU think the military should go union, especially since so many other government agencies are unions.
YOUR OPINION, NOT WHETHER OR NOT IF THE MILITARY WANTS A UNION.
http:///forum/post/2879803
I did just answer your question,sorry if you didn't like the answer. AGAIN!!!!! It would be up to the military to decide,I'm not in the military so i wouldn't get to vote yes or no. So i guess you are clearly incapable of comprehension of words in sentences or didn't read what i posted.
I asked if YOU thought the military should be union. Not if the military wanted a union. You did not answer the question. You believe unions to be a good thing, then shouldn't they be good for all professions is my point. If you think unions are good...then you should be able to answer if YOU think the military should go union, especially since so many other government agencies are unions.
YOUR OPINION, NOT WHETHER OR NOT IF THE MILITARY WANTS A UNION.
veni vidi vici
Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2879835
I asked if YOU thought the military should be union. Not if the military wanted a union. You did not answer the question. You believe unions to be a good thing, then shouldn't they be good for all professions is my point. If you think unions are good...then you should be able to answer if YOU think the military should go union, especially since so many other government agencies are unions.
YOUR OPINION, NOT WHETHER OR NOT IF THE MILITARY WANTS A UNION.
My official answer is this.
It is best if each and every individual decides for oneself if he/she and business would like to be a member or participating part of a union.I think Unions are good,but just because i think they are good i wouldn't presume to answer this question for 300 million American citizens.Just because i approve of Unions ,i dont presume that my opinion is the only one that exists in this great big world we live in.
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2879849
My official answer is this.
It is best if each and every individual decides for oneself if he/she and business would like to be a member or participating part of a union.I think Unions are good,but just because i think they are good i wouldn't presume to answer this question for 300 million American citizens.Just because i approve of Unions ,i dont presume that my opinion is the only one that exists in this great big world we live in.
So you think unions could be good in the military?
Nevermind, let me try it this way.I have a point I want to make and can do it this way.
You are in a union that deals with building structures, correct? Which part of the construction process are you part of specifically? Where does your job description start and stop?
veni vidi vici
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2879855
So you think unions could be good in the military?
Nevermind, let me try it this way.I have a point I want to make and can do it this way.
You are in a union that deals with building structures, correct? Which part of the construction process are you part of specifically? Where does your job description start and stop?
I am a Carpenter and it covers a lot of area depending on what kind of job it is.
Chicago Regional Council of Carpenters:
Carpenters,Millwrights,Stair Builders,Lathers,Bridge and Dock Carpenters,Divers,Pile Drivers,Wood and Resilient Floor Installers,Carpet Installers,Shinglers,Siders,Insulators,Acoustic and Drywall Installers,Show,Display and exhibition Workers,Terrazzo Finishers and Granite Cutters........
The list is long pick one and ill tell you where it starts and stops.
http:///forum/post/2879855
So you think unions could be good in the military?
Nevermind, let me try it this way.I have a point I want to make and can do it this way.
You are in a union that deals with building structures, correct? Which part of the construction process are you part of specifically? Where does your job description start and stop?
I am a Carpenter and it covers a lot of area depending on what kind of job it is.
Chicago Regional Council of Carpenters:
Carpenters,Millwrights,Stair Builders,Lathers,Bridge and Dock Carpenters,Divers,Pile Drivers,Wood and Resilient Floor Installers,Carpet Installers,Shinglers,Siders,Insulators,Acoustic and Drywall Installers,Show,Display and exhibition Workers,Terrazzo Finishers and Granite Cutters........
The list is long pick one and ill tell you where it starts and stops.
fish master
Member
iam like veni, whatever union trade in the building industry your in, the union trains you for different things. so when you go out on a job you know what you are doing. that is why unions are skilled labor. some members pick a certain thing that they like, and stick with that. some members like do everything. but when you are an apprentice, you learn about all of it. so how can you guys say unions are bad. these member have to set thru 4 years of classes with no pay to learn their jobs. i think that is dedication. they love what they are doing
fish master
Member
iforgot aprentices have to work 8 or ten hours a day, then go to class that night
fish master
Member
this guy from wall street, in trouble for stealing 50 (billion) dollars. and people are mad about unions
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by fish master
http:///forum/post/2879967
this guy from wall street, in trouble for stealing 50 (billion) dollars. and people are mad about unions
What this guy did, to a few rich people and what unions are doing to EVERYONE. Are in two different leagues.
You really should look into it. You libs should love it. he ripped off a bunch of Rich people. Those evil greedy CEO's are the victims here. It was just a big ponzi scheme.
http:///forum/post/2879967
this guy from wall street, in trouble for stealing 50 (billion) dollars. and people are mad about unions
What this guy did, to a few rich people and what unions are doing to EVERYONE. Are in two different leagues.
You really should look into it. You libs should love it. he ripped off a bunch of Rich people. Those evil greedy CEO's are the victims here. It was just a big ponzi scheme.
moprint
Member
On the military being union I can speak about that, I'm retired from the Marine Corp. Being in the military gives you no choice on what you are gonna do for the day or the rest of the month, yes you get leave and calls to sick bay. They tell you when you are gonna wake up and how long you are gonna work, I have been up over 60 hours straight, no overtime there. In the military you get promoted on performance mostly, yes they look at time served, but I was higher rank then some guys that had more time. This is how the military should be you stand watch until releaved not when your contract says you its time for you to get off. The military being union is absured. Unions are just not right for the military and anybody else that works hard for a living.
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2879864
I am a Carpenter and it covers a lot of area depending on what kind of job it is.
Chicago Regional Council of Carpenters:
Carpenters,Millwrights,Stair Builders,Lathers,Bridge and Dock Carpenters,Divers,Pile Drivers,Wood and Resilient Floor Installers,Carpet Installers,Shinglers,Siders,Insulators,Acoustic and Drywall Installers,Show,Display and exhibition Workers,Terrazzo Finishers and Granite Cutters........
The list is long pick one and ill tell you where it starts and stops.
Do you pour the slab/lay concrete for the foundation or does someone else do this? Basically what I am getting at is, if the foundation layers call in, who lays the foundation so you stay on schedule...or are you "qualified" to do this? Do you just hang out and wait till another union guy gets this done then you start your job....
http:///forum/post/2879864
I am a Carpenter and it covers a lot of area depending on what kind of job it is.
Chicago Regional Council of Carpenters:
Carpenters,Millwrights,Stair Builders,Lathers,Bridge and Dock Carpenters,Divers,Pile Drivers,Wood and Resilient Floor Installers,Carpet Installers,Shinglers,Siders,Insulators,Acoustic and Drywall Installers,Show,Display and exhibition Workers,Terrazzo Finishers and Granite Cutters........
The list is long pick one and ill tell you where it starts and stops.
Do you pour the slab/lay concrete for the foundation or does someone else do this? Basically what I am getting at is, if the foundation layers call in, who lays the foundation so you stay on schedule...or are you "qualified" to do this? Do you just hang out and wait till another union guy gets this done then you start your job....
veni vidi vici
Active Member
Originally Posted by moprint
http:///forum/post/2880229
On the military being union I can speak about that, I'm retired from the Marine Corp. Being in the military gives you no choice on what you are gonna do for the day or the rest of the month, yes you get leave and calls to sick bay. They tell you when you are gonna wake up and how long you are gonna work, I have been up over 60 hours straight, no overtime there. In the military you get promoted on performance mostly, yes they look at time served, but I was higher rank then some guys that had more time. This is how the military should be you stand watch until releaved not when your contract says you its time for you to get off. The military being union is absured. Unions are just not right for the military and anybody else that works hard for a living.
Thank you for serving .Now for the "anybody else that works hard for a living." comment,I give you a different kind of salute.
http:///forum/post/2880229
On the military being union I can speak about that, I'm retired from the Marine Corp. Being in the military gives you no choice on what you are gonna do for the day or the rest of the month, yes you get leave and calls to sick bay. They tell you when you are gonna wake up and how long you are gonna work, I have been up over 60 hours straight, no overtime there. In the military you get promoted on performance mostly, yes they look at time served, but I was higher rank then some guys that had more time. This is how the military should be you stand watch until releaved not when your contract says you its time for you to get off. The military being union is absured. Unions are just not right for the military and anybody else that works hard for a living.
Thank you for serving .Now for the "anybody else that works hard for a living." comment,I give you a different kind of salute.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by moprint
http:///forum/post/2880229
Unions are just not right for the military and anybody else that works hard for a living.
+1
http:///forum/post/2880229
Unions are just not right for the military and anybody else that works hard for a living.
veni vidi vici
Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2880325
Do you pour the slab/lay concrete for the foundation or does someone else do this? Basically what I am getting at is, if the foundation layers call in, who lays the foundation so you stay on schedule...or are you "qualified" to do this? Do you just hang out and wait till another union guy gets this done then you start your job....
Carpenters will build the forms and then leave or do another task if there is one until the Concrete masons and Laborers are done .The General Contractor is the one that is in charge of setting and keeping the schedule.
http:///forum/post/2880325
Do you pour the slab/lay concrete for the foundation or does someone else do this? Basically what I am getting at is, if the foundation layers call in, who lays the foundation so you stay on schedule...or are you "qualified" to do this? Do you just hang out and wait till another union guy gets this done then you start your job....
Carpenters will build the forms and then leave or do another task if there is one until the Concrete masons and Laborers are done .The General Contractor is the one that is in charge of setting and keeping the schedule.
bionicarm
Active Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2879125
You should pay more attention then ,because you do.I was in the Carpenters Union in San Antonio last summer,and so do the IBEW .So I'm sure there are more.
http://www.texascarpenterstrainingtr...tonio_facility
To bad for you,I migrated to Illinois from San Antonio as a Baby Union Carpenter,(well i was only 5)and now i plan on returning by mid summer "09" See y'all soon.
I was being sarcastic (i.e the Taco Vendor Union reference).
Sorry, once you leave the State of Texas for more than 2 years you're not allowed back. We keep trying to put up a wall around the New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana borders, but the Yankees keep tearing it down. If you fly in, you're required to have a State of Texas passport. I've submitted a petition to the State of Texas Immigration and Naturalization Office to revoke journey's passport. We took a vote and decided we don't want him back.
http:///forum/post/2879125
You should pay more attention then ,because you do.I was in the Carpenters Union in San Antonio last summer,and so do the IBEW .So I'm sure there are more.
http://www.texascarpenterstrainingtr...tonio_facility
To bad for you,I migrated to Illinois from San Antonio as a Baby Union Carpenter,(well i was only 5)and now i plan on returning by mid summer "09" See y'all soon.
I was being sarcastic (i.e the Taco Vendor Union reference).
Sorry, once you leave the State of Texas for more than 2 years you're not allowed back. We keep trying to put up a wall around the New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana borders, but the Yankees keep tearing it down. If you fly in, you're required to have a State of Texas passport. I've submitted a petition to the State of Texas Immigration and Naturalization Office to revoke journey's passport. We took a vote and decided we don't want him back.
veni vidi vici
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2880342
I was being sarcastic (i.e the Taco Vendor Union reference).
Sorry, once you leave the State of Texas for more than 2 years you're not allowed back. We keep trying to put up a wall around the New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana borders, but the Yankees keep tearing it down. If you fly in, you're required to have a State of Texas passport. I've submitted a petition to the State of Texas Immigration and Naturalization Office to revoke journey's passport. We took a vote and decided we don't want him back.
http:///forum/post/2880342
I was being sarcastic (i.e the Taco Vendor Union reference).
Sorry, once you leave the State of Texas for more than 2 years you're not allowed back. We keep trying to put up a wall around the New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana borders, but the Yankees keep tearing it down. If you fly in, you're required to have a State of Texas passport. I've submitted a petition to the State of Texas Immigration and Naturalization Office to revoke journey's passport. We took a vote and decided we don't want him back.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2880342
I was being sarcastic (i.e the Taco Vendor Union reference).
Sorry, once you leave the State of Texas for more than 2 years you're not allowed back. We keep trying to put up a wall around the New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana borders, but the Yankees keep tearing it down. If you fly in, you're required to have a State of Texas passport. I've submitted a petition to the State of Texas Immigration and Naturalization Office to revoke journey's passport. We took a vote and decided we don't want him back.
You're probably the only lib in texas outside of houston and dallas. If anything you're the carpetbagger.
http:///forum/post/2880342
I was being sarcastic (i.e the Taco Vendor Union reference).
Sorry, once you leave the State of Texas for more than 2 years you're not allowed back. We keep trying to put up a wall around the New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana borders, but the Yankees keep tearing it down. If you fly in, you're required to have a State of Texas passport. I've submitted a petition to the State of Texas Immigration and Naturalization Office to revoke journey's passport. We took a vote and decided we don't want him back.
You're probably the only lib in texas outside of houston and dallas. If anything you're the carpetbagger.