Way to go border patrol.

lovethesea

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3278426
OMG! That brings back memories. When my oldest brother was about 20 he and my dad went at it. At one point my mom got in between them with a cast iron skillet and dared either of them to make a move on the other. They both declined. End of fight.

note to self.....

Originally Posted by ironeagle2006
http:///forum/post/3278429
I do not know what is a more deadly weapon in the Hands of the Women from the Deep South like my wife. A Southern Baptist Hymnal or that Freaking Cast Iron Skillet. Our Basset Hound runs whenever he sees that skillet in her hands. On the other hand he did Housebreak himself in 2 days after she finally got mad with it. She used it on one of his Rawhide bones and broke it into pieces. I never saw a Basset hound squeeze into a hole smaller than 3 inches before but HE SURE DID.

Hey I was raised in Jackson Mississippi and my grandma had all kinds of cast iron. My sweet basset was the best of the best. I now know why!
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3278400
Wow you have absolutely no clue of history at all. I'm glad dems are out of their figurative closet. People need to know what they're voting for when they vote democrat. And it is people like you...
At least she got the "8 years of party errors" right. Everything is 'left' and 'right' with you. If a statement is made that against YOUR political views, then it's some nutty "Liberal or Democrat". Hate to break it to you Chief, but there's also a WHOLE bunch of Ultra Conservative, Right-Wingers out there that make just as ridiculous statements on a daily basis. Most of them hang out with the rest of their Tea Bagging Party Hat friends these days.
 
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dragonzim

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3277834
Weed can be addictive too but not many people seem to get hooked compared to other drugs or even alcohol.
FALSE! There have been studies that show that while pot can be mentally addictive there is absolutely NO physical addiction like there is with coke or heroin.
 
mrdc

mrdc

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Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/3278448
FALSE! There have been studies that show that while pot can be mentally addictive there is absolutely NO physical addiction like there is with coke or heroin.
But weed can really cause some severe cheeto fingers! :)
 
mantisman51

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I'll bet SNL's favorite websites are moveon.org and the huffy post. They keep spouting (quite poorly) the drivel that you read there. It really is sad that we on the border have people like them in charge of border security. Sad thing is their leftist bumper sticker mentality is costing people here their lives and property. And all they can think of is "How can we get more voters to make sure there's never another George Bush elected? Let's get all the illegals in here and get them on welfare and food stamps and then give them amnesty and there will never be another Republican elected." It is so clear that is all this stuff from the left is about. I hope this garbage over 1070 has opened peoples eyes to this and enough of the open borders crowd, Democrat and Republican, get voted out to stop the amnesty law that is coming through congress.
 
oscardeuce

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3277801
That, and something along the lines of risk/reward. I usually don't speed more then 15mph higher then the posted limit, because over 15 is considered reckless driving. If Mexican drug smugglers, regardless of age, knew the only thing that they would face, is some tear gas, or other non-lethal force, there would an exodus into the US. I think if I knew that all I'd faced was some tear gas, I'd be knocking off a Best Buy right now...


Ahhh, but did not the greatest President ever, Nobel Peace prize winningest just tell the world they could basically do anything to us and we would not respond with nukes?
You don't win a fight with equal force, you win a fight with overwhelming force.
I am the son of a police officer, I'm glad these border agents went home to their families.
 
oscardeuce

oscardeuce

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Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/3278448
FALSE! There have been studies that show that while pot can be mentally addictive there is absolutely NO physical addiction like there is with coke or heroin.
So what's the difference? Physical and mental addiction lead to the same behavior. Does it matter if you rob someone to buy your weed for the physican or the mental addiction?
 
mrdc

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Home burglaries are up in my area due to the economy. At least that is what the sheriff told me. I'm not so worried about break ins while I am at home since I have plenty of home protection. I do worry about when I am not home even though I have an alarm system. They are only somewhat effective since most robberies are a smash and grab so the robbers are usually gone way before the sheriff gets there. So I just bought a 6 camera monitoring unit. I hope it works well. It has the capability of recording and allowing me to view the cameras anywhere on the web. The tech geek in my looks forward to installing it.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3278443
At least she got the "8 years of party errors" right. Everything is 'left' and 'right' with you. If a statement is made that against YOUR political views, then it's some nutty "Liberal or Democrat". Hate to break it to you Chief, but there's also a WHOLE bunch of Ultra Conservative, Right-Wingers out there that make just as ridiculous statements on a daily basis. Most of them hang out with the rest of their Tea Bagging Party Hat friends these days.

There are some excellent arguments against my views. The only thing is, I"ve never heard a liberal argue them... Last I checked we ran off some kids who was parotting some right wing conspiracy non-sense, I don't remember what it was she (I think) was saying...
As for the 8 years of mistakes, lets think about that. Liberal kooks like to point out Iraq, Gitmo, wiretapping terrorists... Then you have killing babies, they'll never agree there. And lowering taxes. Won't agree there either...
Obama has essentually continued the bush policy in those areas (despite what he's said publically). The obama administration has more than once argued for further domestic survellance without a warrent, on American citizens talking to American citizens...
But I miss 4-5% unemployment, and the government only trying to keep track of me while I talk to known terrorists, instead of knowing every time I go to the doctor... But hey you won't have any arguments from me when it comes to bush doing the bailouts, or his immigration views, him and kennedy's no child left behind... Just goes to show you what happens when Republicans fall for liberal ideas. You get blamed for their failures...
 
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dragonzim

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Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/3278459
So what's the difference? Physical and mental addiction lead to the same behavior. Does it matter if you rob someone to buy your weed for the physican or the mental addiction?
The way I see it, is that a mental addicition is something that you "want" and a physical addiction is something that you "need"
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/3278448
FALSE! There have been studies that show that while pot can be mentally addictive there is absolutely NO physical addiction like there is with coke or heroin.
Not to derail the thread but that is what I was refering to and mental addictions is much harder to kick long term because it never goes away.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/3278480
The way I see it, is that a mental addicition is something that you "want" and a physical addiction is something that you "need"
Physical addiction once you withdraw you are done as long as you don't use the product again. Mental addiction you will always have the craving and must learn to ignore it. Some poor souls experience both.
 
scsinet

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Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3278046
No I would not let anybody step foot into my house. But I also would never shoot somebody or anybody for crossing a border. I have morals and standards and to take a life is wrong espacially over something as stupid as border crossing. People who take another persons life will have their day in court and then they will have their day when they pass away and have to answer to a higher power.
How can a law & order exist if we let the criminals decide what laws they do and do not want to follow?
The concept of law, order, and justice hinges on the concept of consequences existing for unlawful behavior that serves as a deterrent. Let's look at an example. I think the vast majority of us can agree that laws against driving while intoxicated are "good laws" (read: we need them). There are deterrents for driving while intoxicated. Hefty fines, loss of licenses, insurance rates, and criminal records are among them. Let's say for a moment that in spite of these penalties, "everyone" did it anyway. What is a society to do to prevent the ongoing occurrences? Simple... step up the penalties. Step them up again and again until the deterrent - the consequence - makes it unacceptable for individuals to perform the illegal act.
Yes, many of us choose not to drink and drive because it's "wrong." However, the morality of a given situation is not enough for many people, especially when they do not see anything "wrong" with breaking the law. Smoking pot is a good example here... now, I happen to be for legalization of pot, but I also believe that as long as a law exists, there needs to be a sufficient deterrent. Most people that use it do so because A) they do not see doing so as wrong, B) the chances of getting caught are low, and C) the penality if they do get caught is not sufficient to disincline them to do it.
The thing to remember is that these people that are crossing the border, they are doing this by choice. Nobody is forcing them to come across. In spite of the fact that the potential is there to get shot, they choose to do it anyway, because they don't think it's wrong, they don't think they'll get caught, and/or they don't think much will happen even if they do. The latter is now changing. I'm sure that most of us can agree that if we could stop the illegal crossings without shooting people, that would be great. Unfortunately, we are shooting people, and it still happens.
You may think that crossing the border illegally is not much of a crime. Irrelevant. The law is the law, and you can't have law & order in a society that fails to understand and accept that simple concept.
If we as a society decide "well, the criminals are just going to do it anyway, so let's not bother enforcing it anymore," it will lead to a basic breakdown of the justice system and a subsequent removal of law & order.
Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3278338
But guns only have 1 purpose to kill. Knives are used in the kitchen. Guns have no purpose.
How is it that leftists live with the belief that if we somehow made guns vanish one day, the killing would stop? People killed each other long before guns existed, and they'll keep killing each other long after guns fall by the wayside in favor of more efficient means of killing people (... I.E. my "death beam analogy").
 
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smartorl

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Because scottnlisa believes in utopia. The last time I logged in, there was a disagreement about cruel and unusual punishment where he/she felt that therapy not punishment was the answer because there were probably underlying issues of abuse that caused the behavior therefore, they weren't technically "responsible" for their behavior.
I just bowed out and realized that rather than continuing to be frustrated, suck it up and realize that I was trying to make an irrational person see rationally.........that wasn't likely to happen.
Just to throw in my two cents, there are good and bad people in every culture, country, or locale. However those that are sneaking into our country illegally are often not here for noble reasons as some would like you to believe. They come here to prey on what they see as our abundance, they are opportunists and are often involved in crime. Obviously, I am not referring to the family here working, however those flooding in for bad reasons, take away from those who could benefit from being allowed to come here legally. The illegals make it harder for those who we would actually benefit from having here from coming in legally.
 
slice

slice

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Originally Posted by SCSInet
http:///forum/post/3278521
How is it that leftists live with the belief that if we somehow made guns vanish one day, the killing would stop? People killed each other long before guns existed, and they'll keep killing each other long after guns fall by the wayside in favor of more efficient means of killing people (... I.E. my "death beam analogy").
Cain killed Abel with the jawbone of an a$$. What if he hadn't found that jawbone? Might he have used a large rock? A pointy stick? His bare hands?
Cain's criminal intent killed his brother, not any particular instrument.
A favorite Archie Bunker "All in the Family" quote...
Sally Struthers was lamenting the murder by gunshot of someone she knew, going on and on how horrible it is when someone is killed by guns and how they should be outlawed.
Archie says "Would you have felt better if he had been pushed out a window?"
 
scsinet

scsinet

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Originally Posted by Slice
http:///forum/post/3278538
Cain killed Abel with the jawbone of an a$$.

If jawbones had been banned, the killing never would have happened.

Obviously, it's a long and well explained (to no avail to many folks) point. The lefties are correct to say tounge-in-cheek comments like the ones you and I just made are ridiculous analogies... (the "let's ban sticks, rocks, etc" analogies). Indeed.
However, the point that is missed is that attacking guns (or any weapon for that matter) is attacking the symptom, not the cause. To make an aquarium comparison... it's funny how the same folks that are all for banning guns are quick to dress down members here who dump "algae-away" chemicals into their tanks to "address" an alage outbreak because they are attacking the symptom, not the cause.
Much gang violence is caused by guns. If you took the guns away from the gangs, who among us thinks that the gang-bangers will just look at each other, shrug, and head to the nearest 4H club or Junior Achiever's meeting?
In the form of these analogies and arguments, the main point that I and many - if not most - conseratives (including several on this thread) are trying to make is that weapons do not kill, it's the individual operating the weapon - committing the act - that is doing the killing. The idea that getting rid of one means to commit that act will somehow cause a person with intent to kill to just "give up" and not pick up an alternative weapon is just ridiculous... it boggles my mind that people can't understand that.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by lovethesea
http:///forum/post/3278430
note to self.....

Hey I was raised in Jackson Mississippi and my grandma had all kinds of cast iron. My sweet basset was the best of the best. I now know why!

LOl...in NY we used teflon........that wouldn't kill a fly
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by mrdc
http:///forum/post/3278471
Home burglaries are up in my area due to the economy. At least that is what the sheriff told me. I'm not so worried about break ins while I am at home since I have plenty of home protection. I do worry about when I am not home even though I have an alarm system. They are only somewhat effective since most robberies are a smash and grab so the robbers are usually gone way before the sheriff gets there. So I just bought a 6 camera monitoring unit. I hope it works well. It has the capability of recording and allowing me to view the cameras anywhere on the web. The tech geek in my looks forward to installing it.
LOL...what if they steal the camera system???
 
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