What Is This?

[spanko]

Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3030630

Good morning...allllll
Henry...one question...would this type of "coralline" have bubbles?
I would be interested to know more about these bubbles if in fact the OP has some. What really is driving my thought away from cyano here is that it cannot be blown off and it was on the rock when he bought it and did not disappear after all of the transferring from place to place.
Also in regards to this statement you made and as some clarification for you in the future
Cyano is not only caused by low flow, it is also high nutrients.
Cyano is not caused by low flow. The reason we want to increase flow to the infected area is to keep any nutrient from accumulating in that area.

 

[meowzer]

Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3030643
I would be interested to know more about these bubbles if in fact the OP has some. What really is driving my thought away from cyano here is that it cannot be blown off and it was on the rock when he bought it and did not disappear after all of the transferring from place to place.
Also in regards to this statement you made and as some clarification for you in the future
Cyano is not caused by low flow. The reason we want to increase flow to the infected area is to keep any nutrient from accumulating in that area.

Sorry maybe CAUSED was the wrong word to use...(I knew what I meant)..LOL...Now you know why I went into finance and not teaching

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And yes...the not being able to be blown off part has me confused too....

 

[flower]

Originally Posted by Brokendeck
http:///forum/post/3030374
Gonna try to get it off with a turkey baster when I do my water change.
If it did not come off in transport, it is really imbedded. If it is a sponge, it has been exposed to air and will die off on its own. If you want to be really sure of nothing harmful...scrub the rock with a new unused toothbrush (any good bristle brush will do, veggie brush for example) under saltwater.
That will scrub away anything that is dying and stress the coraline to grow. By using saltwater you won't do any harm to the live rock.
They look like lovely pieces, I think it was a good buy.

 

[pezenfuego]

Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3030649
Sorry maybe CAUSED was the wrong word to use...(I knew what I meant)..LOL...Now you know why I went into finance and not teaching

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And yes...the not being able to be blown off part has me confused too....
Nitpicking your selection of word

The main point that it comes down to is that regardless of what it is, if it is not unappealing to look at, if it doesn't kill things (it doesn't), and if it does not grow quickly, then it is not something that is bad to have in your tank.

 

[pezenfuego]

Originally Posted by Brokendeck
http:///forum/post/3030590
yep sure did. guess it wasent a good idea but people learn from the mistakes.
People don't have to learn from their mistakes when they can learn from the mistakes of others. This is the main think I like to drive into people's heads. If I see someone touch an electric fence and die via being shocked to death, then I am not going to touch it too just to be sure they didn't die of other reasons...
In the same regard, if someone tells me not to touch a fence because it will hurt me, I am not going to do it.

 

[spanko]

Hey Pez how is your day going today? Better than yesterday I hope.
I think we need to be careful of what we tell new people because they take our words and use them when answering others. This in turn could confuse other new people and proliferate something not necessarily true. I think there is already too much of that going on in the hobby. I have been called on many occasions for misspeaking and hope to be corrected in the future when it is called for, so that I can help to make suggestion that are based in at least some factual data.
Not getting into her case at all.

 

[meowzer]

Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3030873
Hey Pez how is your day going today? Better than yesterday I hope.
I think we need to be careful of what we tell new people because they take our words and use them when answering others. This in turn could confuse other new people and proliferate something not necessarily true. I think there is already too much of that going on in the hobby. I have been called on many occasions for misspeaking and hope to be corrected in the future when it is called for, so that I can help to make suggestion that are based in at least some factual data.
Not getting into her case at all.
LOL...YEAH...Look what happened to Roger Clemens when he "mis-spoke and MIS-remembered"

Just so "everyone" knows...I appreciate it when someone gives me meanings(or corrects) me...that means I may have misunderstood something myself...and I sure don't want to mislead another hobbyist....

 

[meowzer]

Originally Posted by PEZenfuego
http:///forum/post/3030867
People don't have to learn from their mistakes when they can learn from the mistakes of others. This is the main think I like to drive into people's heads. If I see someone touch an electric fence and die via being shocked to death, then I am not going to touch it too just to be sure they didn't die of other reasons...
In the same regard, if someone tells me not to touch a fence because it will hurt me, I am not going to do it.
I'd probably touch the fence.....You know.....curiosity is what eventually got the cat

 

[pezenfuego]

Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3030873
Hey Pez how is your day going today? Better than yesterday I hope.
I think we need to be careful of what we tell new people because they take our words and use them when answering others. This in turn could confuse other new people and proliferate something not necessarily true. I think there is already too much of that going on in the hobby. I have been called on many occasions for misspeaking and hope to be corrected in the future when it is called for, so that I can help to make suggestion that are based in at least some factual data.
Not getting into her case at all.
Yeah, I understand that. What she meant and what she said were two completely different things. Of course you probably realized that and I assume that newer people would not. Then they might hear the word that low flow creates cyanobacteria and spread it to others in the form of "help." Pretty soon we have a full blown myth on our hands

That's why this forum allows more than one person to post on a thread...
I didn't have a bad day at all yesterday, I just got a nerve touched. Today is excellent though.
Good catch btw, I didn't think to correct her on that.

 

[spanko]

Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3030881
I'd probably touch the fence.....You know.....curiosity is what eventually got the cat

Hmmm.....makes you wonder if the other neighborhood cats told your outside one to stay out of engine compartments and Ms. Kitty's .....um.....kitty being the curious type had to go see for itself.
I have too much time to think I guess............

 

[meowzer]

Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3030886
Hmmm.....makes you wonder if the other neighborhood cats told your outside one to stay out of engine compartments and Ms. Kitty's .....um.....kitty being the curious type had to go see for itself.
I have too much time to think I guess............

What neighborhood???? Remember...country...NO neighbors...therefore no neighborhood cats

BTW did see that she came home

 

[spanko]

Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3030890
What neighborhood???? Remember...country...NO neighbors...therefore no neighborhood cats

BTW did see that she came home

Good news there. Any .......um.........parts look like they been chewed on by a fan belt?
Sorry for the hijack Brokendeck.

 

[meowzer]

Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3030893
Good news there. Any .......um.........parts look like they been chewed on by a fan belt?
Sorry for the hijack Brokendeck.
Don't know...she was hiding.....UNDER THE CAR...LOL
Maybe tonight she will come closer...she's very skiddish, and I think her tail looked weird but from a distance it was hard to tell...
Yeah sorry Brokendeck
WHERE ARE YOU BTW...waiting to hear more about your bubbles...

 

[brokendeck]

Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3030896
Don't know...she was hiding.....UNDER THE CAR...LOL
Maybe tonight she will come closer...she's very skiddish, and I think her tail looked weird but from a distance it was hard to tell...
Yeah sorry Brokendeck
WHERE ARE YOU BTW...waiting to hear more about your bubbles...
Just got home from work.

 

[brokendeck]

Well I just used a turkey baster and it removed some of the burgundy stuff off my rock. Not sure what it is.

 

[pezenfuego]

If a turkey baster can't get the stuff off, then it can't be cyano...but it has bubbles...
Nothing I've heard of fits this description. Maybe it is two different organisms...like a sponge and cyano

 

[brokendeck]

Originally Posted by PEZenfuego
http:///forum/post/3030988
If a turkey baster can't get the stuff off, then it can't be cyano...but it has bubbles...
Nothing I've heard of fits this description. Maybe it is two different organisms...like a sponge and cyano

No, you read what I wrote wrong. I said the turkey baster REMOVED some of the burgundy stuff off the rock. Some of it would come off and some wouldnt.

 

[pezenfuego]

Originally Posted by Brokendeck
http:///forum/post/3031001
No, you read what I wrote wrong. I said the turkey baster REMOVED some of the burgundy stuff off the rock. Some of it would come off and some wouldnt.
Yes, I read that. I also read the word SOME. That my friend is why I am thinking it is two organisms.

 

[brokendeck]

Originally Posted by PEZenfuego
http:///forum/post/3031002
Yes, I read that. I also read the word SOME. That my friend is why I am thinking it is two organisms.
Ok making sure you didnt misread it. I dont know what it is. Some of it will come off and some wont. I scratch it with my finger nail and some wont come off.

 

[pezenfuego]

It has my interest. The bubbles throw me off a bit. I am also thinking that maybe the bubbles came from your rock. When denitrification occurs from a type of benefitial bacteria inside the rock, nitrogenous bubbles form...but they form with cyano as well...