What Is This?

brokendeck

Active Member
Originally Posted by PEZenfuego
http:///forum/post/3031007
It has my interest. The bubbles throw me off a bit. I am also thinking that maybe the bubbles came from your rock. When denitrification occurs from a type of benefitial bacteria inside the rock, nitrogenous bubbles form...but they form with cyano as well...

What is denitrification?
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by Brokendeck
http:///forum/post/3031012
What is denitrification?
Please do not tell me you asked that
JOEEEEEEE....PEZZZZZZ...WHERE ARE YOU GUYS
They are our resident denitrification experts

Can you get some better pics of this stuff? When you said some came off..was it like a top layer....did it kinda peel off....I think we need some good pics at this stage....
 

brokendeck

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3031038
Please do not tell me you asked that
JOEEEEEEE....PEZZZZZZ...WHERE ARE YOU GUYS
They are our resident denitrification experts

Can you get some better pics of this stuff? When you said some came off..was it like a top layer....did it kinda peel off....I think we need some good pics at this stage....
It sucked right up into the baster. Ill get my woman to take some pics in a few and post them.
 

spanko

Active Member
Nitrification and denitrification are the processes that occur during your cycle and all throughout the life of your aquarium. This process happens in many instances on land. water etc but let's stay with the saltwater aquarium.
Dead and decaying material in the tank produces ammonia as one of the byproducts.
There are bacteria that consume this ammonia and convert it into nitrite.
Then there are bacteria that consume this nitrite and convert it into nitrate.
Those two processes are the nitrification process.
Then there are bacteria that consume the nitrate and turn it into nitrogen gas. this is the denitrification process. The gas is then "bled" off as gas bubbles which become part of the atmosphere through the gas exchange process that occurs on the water surface. Nitrogen gas out,,,,,,oxygen in.
Real basic description but one you need to know if you are going to maintain a saltwater tank. I would suggest you obtain some reading materials on the process to become more familiar with it. Any good saltwater aquarium book will explaing it in more detail.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Sorry Spanko, I didn't mean to disclude you out of the resident denitrification experts...what I should have said if you want a GOOD ARGUMENT...you'll get that from Joe and PEZ...If you want a good definition with no tricky questions...just cold hard facts...SPANKO IS the MAN for that job...
 

brokendeck

Active Member
Okay...the woman is here....lol....maybe one of these days I'll actually get a name..hehe
Here are some more pics...not sure if they are any better than the previous ones. We don't have the best camera in the world. Zooming in too close causes it to become a big blur. You'll have to excuse the clown...he wanted to be in the pic....





 

spanko

Active Member
they may have a spot or two, but the OP did say that there are parts that cannot be scraped off with his nail. I am going to guess that these are recent pics after turkey basting and that this is the stuff that did not could not come off.
I could be wrong but with the available information that is my guess.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3031147
they may have a spot or two, but the OP did say that there are parts that cannot be scraped off with his nail. I am going to guess that these are recent pics after turkey basting and that this is the stuff that did not could not come off.
I could be wrong but with the available information that is my guess.
LOL...You are most likely right...In the very beginning I said it could be both....I still think some spots may have been since they came off so easily...BUT the stuff staying behind sounds and looks like good old coralline...
 

brokendeck

Active Member
Okay....this is the "she" at the moment...lol....i'm not sure what all he tried to remove with the turkey baster...i was sleeping. He is napping now so I can't ask, but I got the turkey baster out and I'm including a picture of what came off quite easily. Ignore the flower on the paper towel....lol I don't know if these will help or not.
Thanks!

 

brokendeck

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3030431
NO, this is all normal...my sand in the 29g is almost all brown....When you get your first Clean up crew additions, they will take care of it
Meowzer,
Should we add to our cleaner crew? We have 15 snails and 15 crabs. plus 4 bumblebee snails. We may have lost a crab or two....we can't quite account for them all. lol
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Cyano is so slimy it would not look like anything but a smudge of red goo after you put it on a towel.
The pieces on your paper towel looks to me like a type of red algae, they actually sell the stuff. The red on your rock is coraline algae and very much desired by all new hobbyists.
When I first posted a picture of my tank a few folks (not moewzer...for the record) actually insisted I had a cyano problem until I explained that it was hard like the rock.
Some folks see red and assume cyano.
 

spanko

Active Member
That looks to be some type of Rodophyta, red algae. It looks to be soft and branching, is it? These are all normal in our tanks, the red algaes and the red corallines.
For your information the cyano is a slime like blanket and if sucked up with the turkey baster will come up all together in much like a blanket.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by Brokendeck
http:///forum/post/3031163
Meowzer,
Should we add to our cleaner crew? We have 15 snails and 15 crabs. plus 4 bumblebee snails. We may have lost a crab or two....we can't quite account for them all. lol
I like the flower...LOL...What kind of snails do you have already? And what type of crabs?
If I had to guess....id be guessing....LOL
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3031169
That looks to be some type of Rodophyta, red algae. It looks to be soft and branching, is it? These are all normal in our tanks, the red algaes and the red corallines.
For your information the cyano is a slime like blanket and if sucked up with the turkey baster will come up all together in much like a blanket.
LOL....but won't it look different on a paper towel with a flower

So Spanko, are you saying to not remove the "red algae"?
 

spanko

Active Member
If you go back and look at some of the statements made by Pez, to paraphrase, if it ain't hurting anything leave it be and in this case I agree. There are critters that will use it as food. It is part of the biotope and it is a way if harvested to remove nutrients in the future. So yes I am saying to not remove the red algae.
 
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