seasalt101
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yep so do i...tobin
whats wrong w/ america?!
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seasalt101
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and i guess liberal sympathisers are not to blame at all for this, no don't punish them they are just trying to look out for their families, they are not criminals my arse...tobin
darthtang aw
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Originally Posted by Jmick
Brilliant! We already stole Texas, New Mexico and California...why not??? I love that Texas right-wing mentality, must be a result of the terrible tex-mex food you guys eat.
Oh don't give me that...This whole frickin' country was stolen...
Aztec, your area isn't as impacted as the border states. We see it more and live through it. Thus why some of what we say happens you have never or never will see.
Brilliant! We already stole Texas, New Mexico and California...why not??? I love that Texas right-wing mentality, must be a result of the terrible tex-mex food you guys eat.
Oh don't give me that...This whole frickin' country was stolen...
Aztec, your area isn't as impacted as the border states. We see it more and live through it. Thus why some of what we say happens you have never or never will see.
jovial
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Originally Posted by Jmick
Brilliant! We already stole Texas, New Mexico and California...why not??? I love that Texas right-wing mentality, must be a result of the terrible tex-mex food you guys eat.
Stole? , more like conqured. I love how the liberal left tries to justify weakness, instead of encouraging strength. How about some Aztec history.
Brilliant! We already stole Texas, New Mexico and California...why not??? I love that Texas right-wing mentality, must be a result of the terrible tex-mex food you guys eat.
Stole? , more like conqured. I love how the liberal left tries to justify weakness, instead of encouraging strength. How about some Aztec history.
jmick
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Originally Posted by seasalt101
and i guess liberal sympathisers are not to blame at all for this, no don't punish them they are just trying to look out for their families, they are not criminals my arse...tobin
Who's really to blame? Is it the government for turning its head because of the economic stimulus cheap labor provides or is it business for not doing their due diligence…or both?
If you were a Mexican and you lived near the border and could work in American for a lot more $$ and provide your family a better life or stay in Mexico for a lot less, what would you do? You can hardly blame these people; any of us would do the same. They are not afforded the same opportunities we are to education (trade school or traditional college). The reason why so many of you feel so strongly is that you are threatened by their presence and fear they might take your job, which is understandable but you still must feel a little sympathy for these people.
I still feel if they were white and bapist some of you would have a different take on the situation.
and i guess liberal sympathisers are not to blame at all for this, no don't punish them they are just trying to look out for their families, they are not criminals my arse...tobin
Who's really to blame? Is it the government for turning its head because of the economic stimulus cheap labor provides or is it business for not doing their due diligence…or both?
If you were a Mexican and you lived near the border and could work in American for a lot more $$ and provide your family a better life or stay in Mexico for a lot less, what would you do? You can hardly blame these people; any of us would do the same. They are not afforded the same opportunities we are to education (trade school or traditional college). The reason why so many of you feel so strongly is that you are threatened by their presence and fear they might take your job, which is understandable but you still must feel a little sympathy for these people.
I still feel if they were white and bapist some of you would have a different take on the situation.
rara12
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I hate to join the conversation so late but i just wanted to post my opinion. The problems we have here in america are in no ways the same as the ones in africa. Rather then tryin to donate money to or sending food to africa we should really limit and severely handicap the export of sea food from africa. This would really help the food problems in africa and cut down on over fishing problems.
And not to be mean but you see a commercial and the first thing you do is come here and start a topic...just saying it wouldnt be my first choice.
And not to be mean but you see a commercial and the first thing you do is come here and start a topic...just saying it wouldnt be my first choice.
jmick
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Originally Posted by Jovial
Stole? , more like conqured. I love how the liberal left tries to justify weakness, instead of encouraging strength. How about some Aztec history.
Conquered or stolen, it's a matter of perspective. Waging war against an inferior army and smashing it is not a sign of strength.
Stole? , more like conqured. I love how the liberal left tries to justify weakness, instead of encouraging strength. How about some Aztec history.
Conquered or stolen, it's a matter of perspective. Waging war against an inferior army and smashing it is not a sign of strength.
seasalt101
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Originally Posted by Jmick
Conquered or stolen, it's a matter of perspective. Waging war against an inferior army and smashing it is not a sign of strength.
well lets look at history real quick the romans did not sit down with any of the opposing armies and say look guys we are just going to sit here in your country and rule you and tell you what to do ok? no 1st they conquered them then told them that, hitler says you poles are alright in my book just going to take your country hope this does not bother you, you know what worked we dropped atomic weapons and now japan is the most prosperous it has ever been hmmmm...tobin
Conquered or stolen, it's a matter of perspective. Waging war against an inferior army and smashing it is not a sign of strength.
well lets look at history real quick the romans did not sit down with any of the opposing armies and say look guys we are just going to sit here in your country and rule you and tell you what to do ok? no 1st they conquered them then told them that, hitler says you poles are alright in my book just going to take your country hope this does not bother you, you know what worked we dropped atomic weapons and now japan is the most prosperous it has ever been hmmmm...tobin
jovial
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Originally Posted by Jmick
Oh come on, that was not hostile there is no need to be sensitive...
BTW, even if the Mexican Government is helping their people get jobs how does that make them cowards? I could see if they were in war with Guatemala and they were fleeing to the US then they might be cowards...think you need to rephrase that. Are American’s that get meds in Canada because it’s cheaper there make them cowards??
Where is the courage in exporting your problems for another country to fix?
Why dosent Mexico have the guts to fix their economic problems instead of running from them?
Oh come on, that was not hostile there is no need to be sensitive...
BTW, even if the Mexican Government is helping their people get jobs how does that make them cowards? I could see if they were in war with Guatemala and they were fleeing to the US then they might be cowards...think you need to rephrase that. Are American’s that get meds in Canada because it’s cheaper there make them cowards??
Where is the courage in exporting your problems for another country to fix?
Why dosent Mexico have the guts to fix their economic problems instead of running from them?
jmick
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Originally Posted by Jovial
Where is the courage in exporting your problems for another country to fix?
Why dosent Mexico have the guts to fix their economic problems instead of running from them?
I don't get it, what does courage and guts have to do with this...how old are you? It comes down to economics, they have little $$ and we have a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. The problem in Mexico is that there are few with a lot of money and many with little or no money and I'd be willing to bet the powers that be want to keep it that way. Anyway you look at it, it is a bad situation for the poor and I'm still trying to figure out where courage and guts come into the equation.
Where is the courage in exporting your problems for another country to fix?
Why dosent Mexico have the guts to fix their economic problems instead of running from them?
I don't get it, what does courage and guts have to do with this...how old are you? It comes down to economics, they have little $$ and we have a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. The problem in Mexico is that there are few with a lot of money and many with little or no money and I'd be willing to bet the powers that be want to keep it that way. Anyway you look at it, it is a bad situation for the poor and I'm still trying to figure out where courage and guts come into the equation.
jmick
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Originally Posted by seasalt101
well lets look at history real quick the romans did not sit down with any of the opposing armies and say look guys we are just going to sit here in your country and rule you and tell you what to do ok? no 1st they conquered them then told them that, hitler says you poles are alright in my book just going to take your country hope this does not bother you, you know what worked we dropped atomic weapons and now japan is the most prosperous it has ever been hmmmm...tobin
Well that has been great for Japan, too bad Mexico didn't fare as well in their outcome. I'm not really sure what your post is trying to argue.
well lets look at history real quick the romans did not sit down with any of the opposing armies and say look guys we are just going to sit here in your country and rule you and tell you what to do ok? no 1st they conquered them then told them that, hitler says you poles are alright in my book just going to take your country hope this does not bother you, you know what worked we dropped atomic weapons and now japan is the most prosperous it has ever been hmmmm...tobin
Well that has been great for Japan, too bad Mexico didn't fare as well in their outcome. I'm not really sure what your post is trying to argue.
darthtang aw
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Originally Posted by Jmick
Conquered or stolen, it's a matter of perspective. Waging war against an inferior army and smashing it is not a sign of strength.
LMAO!!! This is the single dumbest stance the left always stands on, Show me one country today that exists without conquering or stealing the land from someone else at some point.
Conquered or stolen, it's a matter of perspective. Waging war against an inferior army and smashing it is not a sign of strength.
LMAO!!! This is the single dumbest stance the left always stands on, Show me one country today that exists without conquering or stealing the land from someone else at some point.
seasalt101
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Originally Posted by Jmick
Conquered or stolen, it's a matter of perspective. Waging war against an inferior army and smashing it is not a sign of strength.
try this again as it seems you are not reading your own words, 1st you ask some one how old they are when you were the one to bring up cowards, running for america then you say it's ok if they are guatamalan refugees to run and the other poster states that in his opinion it is cowardly for mexico not to fix there own problems which i agree with, and war is what has and always will happen if it did not happen the world would of ran out of food centuries ago and the states that were stolen when mexico had them they were as poor as mexico well now that the u.s has conquered them they are very prosperous and real estate in california is sky high except in the bario, another thought to ponder...tobin
Conquered or stolen, it's a matter of perspective. Waging war against an inferior army and smashing it is not a sign of strength.
try this again as it seems you are not reading your own words, 1st you ask some one how old they are when you were the one to bring up cowards, running for america then you say it's ok if they are guatamalan refugees to run and the other poster states that in his opinion it is cowardly for mexico not to fix there own problems which i agree with, and war is what has and always will happen if it did not happen the world would of ran out of food centuries ago and the states that were stolen when mexico had them they were as poor as mexico well now that the u.s has conquered them they are very prosperous and real estate in california is sky high except in the bario, another thought to ponder...tobin
jmick
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
LMAO!!! This is the single dumbest stance the left always stands on, Show me one country today that exists without conquering or stealing the land from someone else at some point.
Did I say I thought it was bad for our country? Umm no, I stated doing so was not a sign of strength...I rather enjoy California.
LMAO!!! This is the single dumbest stance the left always stands on, Show me one country today that exists without conquering or stealing the land from someone else at some point.
Did I say I thought it was bad for our country? Umm no, I stated doing so was not a sign of strength...I rather enjoy California.
sharkboy13
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hmmmm somehow we've jumped from what america could do to be bettr to illegal immigrants, but i can see how theyre connected, interesting to read honestly....
jmick
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Originally Posted by seasalt101
try this again as it seems you are not reading your own words, 1st you ask some one how old they are when you were the one to bring up cowards, running for america then you say it's ok if they are guatamalan refugees to run and the other poster states that in his opinion it is cowardly for mexico not to fix there own problems which i agree with, and war is what has and always will happen if it did not happen the world would of ran out of food centuries ago and the states that were stolen when mexico had them they were as poor as mexico well now that the u.s has conquered them they are very prosperous and real estate in california is sky high except in the bario, another thought to ponder...tobin
I think you need to read the entire thread...I did not bring the word cowards into play.
Why is it when I ask a question no one can respond, all you do is pick at the bits.
try this again as it seems you are not reading your own words, 1st you ask some one how old they are when you were the one to bring up cowards, running for america then you say it's ok if they are guatamalan refugees to run and the other poster states that in his opinion it is cowardly for mexico not to fix there own problems which i agree with, and war is what has and always will happen if it did not happen the world would of ran out of food centuries ago and the states that were stolen when mexico had them they were as poor as mexico well now that the u.s has conquered them they are very prosperous and real estate in california is sky high except in the bario, another thought to ponder...tobin
I think you need to read the entire thread...I did not bring the word cowards into play.
Why is it when I ask a question no one can respond, all you do is pick at the bits.
jovial
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Originally Posted by Jmick
Conquered or stolen, it's a matter of perspective. Waging war against an inferior army and smashing it is not a sign of strength.
I used the word coward at one point because cowards run from problems instead of facing them.
I agree Jmick, but it's the natural order of things. It happens all the time in daily life, business and nature from the bottom to the top. No matter how hard humans try we are no different than animals and always seem to resort back to barbaric measures to obtain our objectives. Possibly because of a limited ammount of resources and too many people or just plain greed. Because of this reason overpopulation will only continue to make people more hostile. Throuought history, it has been a survival of the fittest (not the nicest), the strong survive and the weak dont.
Dont mean to sound cold or "insensitive" but IMO, they shouldnt have lost. If they were stronger they wouldnt have. Whether its right or wrong, the stronger force always prevails.
Conquered or stolen, it's a matter of perspective. Waging war against an inferior army and smashing it is not a sign of strength.
I used the word coward at one point because cowards run from problems instead of facing them.
I agree Jmick, but it's the natural order of things. It happens all the time in daily life, business and nature from the bottom to the top. No matter how hard humans try we are no different than animals and always seem to resort back to barbaric measures to obtain our objectives. Possibly because of a limited ammount of resources and too many people or just plain greed. Because of this reason overpopulation will only continue to make people more hostile. Throuought history, it has been a survival of the fittest (not the nicest), the strong survive and the weak dont.
Dont mean to sound cold or "insensitive" but IMO, they shouldnt have lost. If they were stronger they wouldnt have. Whether its right or wrong, the stronger force always prevails.
seasalt101
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Originally Posted by Jmick
Oh come on, that was not hostile there is no need to be sensitive...
BTW, even if the Mexican Government is helping their people get jobs how does that make them cowards? I could see if they were in war with Guatemala and they were fleeing to the US then they might be cowards...think you need to rephrase that. Are American’s that get meds in Canada because it’s cheaper there make them cowards??
this is where you brought it up...tobin
Oh come on, that was not hostile there is no need to be sensitive...
BTW, even if the Mexican Government is helping their people get jobs how does that make them cowards? I could see if they were in war with Guatemala and they were fleeing to the US then they might be cowards...think you need to rephrase that. Are American’s that get meds in Canada because it’s cheaper there make them cowards??
this is where you brought it up...tobin
darthtang aw
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They are cowards because the are afraid to petition their own government or install a new one to make things better and instead run here.
Imagine if the revolutionaries in the 13 colonies never stood up for over taxation without representation and screw it, I am going to France.
Imagine if the revolutionaries in the 13 colonies never stood up for over taxation without representation and screw it, I am going to France.