Originally Posted by Jmick
See, I just don't see how anyone can view an issue as black and white? There are too many factors to take into consideration when you look at the big picture not to see some gray in it. The links you provided did have some good info but they are right wing propaganda, just look at the sources. I am proud to be an American, this is the best country in the world and it is the land of opportunity with more of everything then we could ever need. I consider myself as patriotic as anyone, I pay my taxes, I vote, I give to charities, I contribute in a very positive way to my community and to the economy. I do not always agree and follow like a puppy with what the government does. As Americans we have the right to free speech and the right to question the powers that be and not taking advantage of that is unpatriotic.
Also, I am not as liberal as some of you might like to believe...I don't believe free health care for all (except for children), I hate abortions, I have no issues with guns (except for assult style guns), I like to hunt/fish, I hate Hilary C and I think people are responsible for their actions. I just look at the whole picture before forming my opinions and for some odd reason, I see people that want to provide better lives for their families as a good thing, especialy when they are given the opportunity...I know I'd do the same without a second thought.
I want just one of you to answer if you were on the other side of the border what would you do if you had a hungry family and had an opportunity to provide a better life immediately?
Jmick, I truly am not that far off on most of your view points...However where I believe we differ is the perspective thing. They problem I see with this country (the main problem) is Americans on a collective level are willing to excuse certain actions due to perception or circumstances. I disagree with this. There is a black and white aspect to everything. The perception viewpoint just creates excuses.
If I was down on my luck, Lost my job and couldn't get a job was on the verge of losing my house, would you excuse me coming into your house and robbing you for your expensive items like big screen tv, stole your aquarium, cash, credit cards and such.
This is the same scenario essentially as an illegal, down on his luck, coming to this country (my house), getting paid under the table (stealing because not paying taxes) and/or collecting welfare (stealing). And into the equation the medical factor and not paying for insurance or healthcare (stealing again) and the illegals are stealing from every legal citizen in this country (our house). It is the same thing.
Would you excuse my actions for robbing you personally if you are willing to excuse the illegals actions?
