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You sure did Jim. Guess I need to have my eyes checked again. Getting old enough to need it done twice a year now!! ROTF

Ok, I'll own up to it. I'm 44 or better put 5 years older than Jack Benning!! :o) So, who will own up to being older than me? Any takers??? LOL

Jill - Thanks, it is sad to watch and I've been watching it for several years now. What really hurts more than anything is knowing we aren't supposed to wish a parent to die, yet not wanting them to suffer either - what a catch 22! I wouldn't really say I'm strong. Mom is the strong one, going...

Jill I definately understand your feelings. I lost a very special family member (my tabby) and just a few months later lost another very special family member (my burmese). It hit me hard and I really felt lost for awhile. The memories of our good times got me through the loss and I guess...

I've got a 180 and a 250 Acrylic and a 45 Glass. IMO - Acrylic ALL THE WAY! nolofinwe - I'll take the ass chewing because I didn't read anything in his post that states glass is better or worse then acrylic. He makes good points, but I don't see the points being determining factors. Example -...

Well, guess I don't add to good. Multiply Great though!!! LOL

Not sure about the watts per gallon using MH's. I have noticed that most of the sharks, etc that are keeping good SPS and clams are using around 7 to 9 watts per gallon including their MH's. Think you would be ok if you used 4 - 110 VHO's. That would put you at 6.9.

Hey - Saying Broomer lost it presumes he had it to begin with!! That's beginning to be questionable!!! LOL

Does anyone have any experience with Namoli?

I've purchased fish from SWF and they have done very well!

It's more the size of your tank. You may not need a chiller, but the glass top can hold the heat more than you think. Try it and watch your temp. I'm using a dual 175W with my 45 and my temp went up 2 degrees in about four hours so I removed the glass top which gave it more ventilation.

Broomer you need to change your user name to RubberMaid!!! :) Think this just gave me a good idea about my FUGE. I can use two Rubbermaid and get twice the room! OT - Broomer what software do you use for your pics?

With the MH and the glass top you WON'T need a heater. You may need a chiller! LOL I wouldn't worry about people out bidding you from here. I won't - promise!! ;) Although I'm still in need of a dual 250W mh and a dual 400W and a dual HQI 400W!! Plus, 4 VHO's. I want just a little bit of...

I'll take option (4 x 2) / 4. :p

The 10,000 adds more on the blue side of the spetrum and is a more balance bulb. IMO - which is based on limited knowledge - LOL

I took my glass top off because the water temp was raising. I've had water temps that are much more stable without the glass top.

That doesn't look to be a bad deal. I would recommend changing the MH bulbs from 5200k to 10000k which can run another $150 to $180.

What's the height of your tank?

I'll agree with Guy about the Cerith, Nassarius. Haven't tried the Stomatella varians yet. But will since Guy said it!! Who needs Garf when we have Guy - The World According to Guy!! :p

It's not difficult, just a few steps: 1) First take it out of the tank 2) Throw it on the floor swiftly That should do it! Now just glue the pieces on plugs or on your LR. - j/k couldn't resist. :p Here's a good site for fragging information - www.garf.org