Bigger is better? Lets try 475 gallons...Tangs gonna be happy!
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well done!
tangs rule
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The lights just went out, and it's waterchange nite.....whoppie! not... I'll get some new pics up tomorrow morn. I was planning an update this past weekend with pics, but that plan is obviously moot.....
deejeff442
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i tried to find your thread but you havnt added in a while and got tired of scrolling down.c'mon more pics.i would think the fish have grown some.when i added my sailfin to the 250 it grew double sized in three months.btw my orange shoulder and anthia are doing awesome so far.
i have to get with you on where you bought your 400 watt mh pendants.i figure mine is 41 inches deep and the 250watters wont cut it.
i have to get with you on where you bought your 400 watt mh pendants.i figure mine is 41 inches deep and the 250watters wont cut it.
tangs rule
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Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///forum/thread/384145/bigger-is-better-lets-try-475-gallons-tangs-gonna-be-happy/260#post_3396851
i tried to find your thread but you havnt added in a while and got tired of scrolling down.c'mon more pics.i would think the fish have grown some.when i added my sailfin to the 250 it grew double sized in three months.btw my orange shoulder and anthia are doing awesome so far.
i have to get with you on where you bought your 400 watt mh pendants.i figure mine is 41 inches deep and the 250watters wont cut it.
Yeah - I kinda started a newer one a couple months ago, but they both are kinda stale now. I'll get pics up in the AM.
Glad to hear your orange shoulder & anthia are doing good - Keep an eye on them. Mine's a growin, eats like a hog at the trough.
I found my pendants and a dual 400w ballast on ebay - even came with 2 sets (4total - 2 new) 15k mogul base bulbs......it was a TOTAL STEAL - no other bidders, and his starting price was like 85 dollars, with 40 in shipping. New pendants are like over $125 each so I did well - but I had to wait like a month - 6weeks for a nice set like that to come up for bids - BUT it was sooo worth the wait!
That 2nd skimmer I bought on the bay too, along with the nice korralin calcium reactor with a BIG 25 pound CO2 bottle. These items bought used saved me at least $1000 over new.
Edit - and your right - 40 inch deep tank too deep for 250 watt units for a reef, OK for fowlr
Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///forum/thread/384145/bigger-is-better-lets-try-475-gallons-tangs-gonna-be-happy/260#post_3396851
i tried to find your thread but you havnt added in a while and got tired of scrolling down.c'mon more pics.i would think the fish have grown some.when i added my sailfin to the 250 it grew double sized in three months.btw my orange shoulder and anthia are doing awesome so far.
i have to get with you on where you bought your 400 watt mh pendants.i figure mine is 41 inches deep and the 250watters wont cut it.
Yeah - I kinda started a newer one a couple months ago, but they both are kinda stale now. I'll get pics up in the AM.
Glad to hear your orange shoulder & anthia are doing good - Keep an eye on them. Mine's a growin, eats like a hog at the trough.
I found my pendants and a dual 400w ballast on ebay - even came with 2 sets (4total - 2 new) 15k mogul base bulbs......it was a TOTAL STEAL - no other bidders, and his starting price was like 85 dollars, with 40 in shipping. New pendants are like over $125 each so I did well - but I had to wait like a month - 6weeks for a nice set like that to come up for bids - BUT it was sooo worth the wait!
That 2nd skimmer I bought on the bay too, along with the nice korralin calcium reactor with a BIG 25 pound CO2 bottle. These items bought used saved me at least $1000 over new.
Edit - and your right - 40 inch deep tank too deep for 250 watt units for a reef, OK for fowlr
tangs rule
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Some updated pictures - No new fish or coral additions or losses. Everybody gets along great and everyones growing, fish & coral. The purple tang & hippo with some HLLE are getting better - likely by the end of the year, they'll be fully healed.
Center:
East End:
West End:
Full Tank shot:
Tank Water stats:
temp: 79f
SG: 1.025
NH3 & NO2 : 0 ppm
PO4: 0 ppm
NO3 (trates): 0.3 - never exceeds 0.6 ppm
CA: 480
ALk: 6 meq/L
Since the last update we have a little turf scrubber with 350 sq inches of screen - been running 5 days.
Some detailed pics to come!
Center:
East End:
West End:
Full Tank shot:
Tank Water stats:
temp: 79f
SG: 1.025
NH3 & NO2 : 0 ppm
PO4: 0 ppm
NO3 (trates): 0.3 - never exceeds 0.6 ppm
CA: 480
ALk: 6 meq/L
Since the last update we have a little turf scrubber with 350 sq inches of screen - been running 5 days.
Some detailed pics to come!
tangs rule
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The Pipe Organ has doubled is size, the Galaxea and green star polyp doing great, and the orange plate coral is out & feeding. (from left to right)
Of course the Navarchus angle is my favorite fish.
2 types of green mushroom, multiplying nicely: (blonde naso is a camrea hog)
The toadstool mushroom, a short polyp goniopora, and red sea fan:
The Sprungs Stunner, a Pagoda plate, and blue enchinopora
Of course the Navarchus angle is my favorite fish.
2 types of green mushroom, multiplying nicely: (blonde naso is a camrea hog)
The toadstool mushroom, a short polyp goniopora, and red sea fan:
The Sprungs Stunner, a Pagoda plate, and blue enchinopora
tangs rule
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Originally Posted by Slice http:///forum/thread/384145/bigger-is-better-lets-try-475-gallons-tangs-gonna-be-happy/260#post_3396985
Must be a pain to have to step back 10ft to get an FTS
I always enjoy seeing pics of you tank...question though...
ALK 6 meq/l ???? Thats like a dKH of 16!?! For real??
I've read that alkalinity of more than 4 meq/l can cause RTN.
Those are last weeks numbers from the log. I did a 60g w/c this morn, and tomorrow morning I take new numbers and fill out the next line.. I just retested alk and it's 5 meq/L. I know that's still hi end, but it should come down. (seachem alk test)
Originally Posted by Slice http:///forum/thread/384145/bigger-is-better-lets-try-475-gallons-tangs-gonna-be-happy/260#post_3396985
Must be a pain to have to step back 10ft to get an FTS
I always enjoy seeing pics of you tank...question though...
ALK 6 meq/l ???? Thats like a dKH of 16!?! For real??
I've read that alkalinity of more than 4 meq/l can cause RTN.
Those are last weeks numbers from the log. I did a 60g w/c this morn, and tomorrow morning I take new numbers and fill out the next line.. I just retested alk and it's 5 meq/L. I know that's still hi end, but it should come down. (seachem alk test)
1guydude
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hey tang....wat is ur expierence with the galaxy? Does it take awhile to grow? Ive had my frag for awhile like at least 3months and all i see are some more short tentacles on the bottom end of it! Any tips r appreciated as always! Tank looks great btw and glad to hear its leveling out and everything is getting along!!!!!
tangs rule
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Some tank stats:
All in a days feeding for this tank:
1/2-3/4 sheet of purple nori
2-3 cubes Marine Cusine
2-3 cubes Emerald Entree
4-6 cubes PE mysis
1 cube Ocean Nutrition Formula 2
1 cube Ocean Nutrition VHP
1-2 cubes Ocean Nutrition Angle Formula
A little Rods omnivoir or carnivoir
Tank is fed through out the day, every couple hours.
Reef feeding: (Sat & Wed)
Rods reef blend
Reef Nutrition oyster, phyto, and roti feast
Marine Snow
Frozen Plankton by Ocean Nutrition
1 feeding during lights on and another after lights out.
Light Cycle :
2 each MH 250w 14k ON at 0800
1each MH 250w 20k & 1 400w 20k ON at 0830
2each MH 400w 15k ON at 0930
twin 400w off at 1500
1 250w & 1 400W off at 1800
2 250w of at 1845
Moonlights coincide with lunar cycle.
Refugium Lighting - 2x 55w 6700k flourescent runs 18 hours/day. Truf scrubber running 24/7 on dual 55w flourescent
1/2 HP chiller runs about 6 hours/day, it's 103 outside, and 78 inside. In the winter (can't wait) the chiller won't need to run at all.
Tank consumes around 3800 watts/hour during the day, or about 32 amps. Only 850 watts or 7 amps at nite. Tank adds about $100/month to the electirc bill.
All in a days feeding for this tank:
1/2-3/4 sheet of purple nori
2-3 cubes Marine Cusine
2-3 cubes Emerald Entree
4-6 cubes PE mysis
1 cube Ocean Nutrition Formula 2
1 cube Ocean Nutrition VHP
1-2 cubes Ocean Nutrition Angle Formula
A little Rods omnivoir or carnivoir
Tank is fed through out the day, every couple hours.
Reef feeding: (Sat & Wed)
Rods reef blend
Reef Nutrition oyster, phyto, and roti feast
Marine Snow
Frozen Plankton by Ocean Nutrition
1 feeding during lights on and another after lights out.
Light Cycle :
2 each MH 250w 14k ON at 0800
1each MH 250w 20k & 1 400w 20k ON at 0830
2each MH 400w 15k ON at 0930
twin 400w off at 1500
1 250w & 1 400W off at 1800
2 250w of at 1845
Moonlights coincide with lunar cycle.
Refugium Lighting - 2x 55w 6700k flourescent runs 18 hours/day. Truf scrubber running 24/7 on dual 55w flourescent
1/2 HP chiller runs about 6 hours/day, it's 103 outside, and 78 inside. In the winter (can't wait) the chiller won't need to run at all.
Tank consumes around 3800 watts/hour during the day, or about 32 amps. Only 850 watts or 7 amps at nite. Tank adds about $100/month to the electirc bill.
tangs rule
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1guyDude http:///forum/thread/384145/bigger-is-better-lets-try-475-gallons-tangs-gonna-be-happy/260#post_3397015
hey tang....wat is ur expierence with the galaxy? Does it take awhile to grow? Ive had my frag for awhile like at least 3months and all i see are some more short tentacles on the bottom end of it! Any tips r appreciated as always! Tank looks great btw and glad to hear its leveling out and everything is getting along!!!!!
The galaxea grow kinda slow, but those short little tenticals are the newbies. I occasionally use a turkey baster and feed it directly with some rods reef blend or a mix of oyster/phyto/roti feast. I think mine could stand to be a little higher, as they are a high light demand coral, but it's got real nice medium flow where it is, so I leave it for now.....When I get some new dry base rock in, and it cures off a bit - I'd like to move it up a bit.
If yours is not doing well, I'd move it up in the water column a few inches and see if the growth gets better over some time. If by doing this, the polyps seem to be less extended, get it back down, but give it a few days at a higher level to test.
Originally Posted by 1guyDude http:///forum/thread/384145/bigger-is-better-lets-try-475-gallons-tangs-gonna-be-happy/260#post_3397015
hey tang....wat is ur expierence with the galaxy? Does it take awhile to grow? Ive had my frag for awhile like at least 3months and all i see are some more short tentacles on the bottom end of it! Any tips r appreciated as always! Tank looks great btw and glad to hear its leveling out and everything is getting along!!!!!
The galaxea grow kinda slow, but those short little tenticals are the newbies. I occasionally use a turkey baster and feed it directly with some rods reef blend or a mix of oyster/phyto/roti feast. I think mine could stand to be a little higher, as they are a high light demand coral, but it's got real nice medium flow where it is, so I leave it for now.....When I get some new dry base rock in, and it cures off a bit - I'd like to move it up a bit.
If yours is not doing well, I'd move it up in the water column a few inches and see if the growth gets better over some time. If by doing this, the polyps seem to be less extended, get it back down, but give it a few days at a higher level to test.
deejeff442
Active Member
if someone drives by your house they will think you are growing pot with all them dar lights :O)
i love the butterflyfish.he dont bother the corals?
i love the butterflyfish.he dont bother the corals?
tangs rule
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///forum/thread/384145/bigger-is-better-lets-try-475-gallons-tangs-gonna-be-happy/260#post_3397072
if someone drives by your house they will think you are growing pot with all them dar lights :O)
i love the butterflyfish.he dont bother the corals?
LOL - It does look very suspiscous from the backyard, with the blue glow at night.... I really hope the local PD never mistakes this place for a grow house though - there's a loaded gun in every room in the house (except the bathrooms) and multiple AR15's placed here & there, All kept loaded/chambered with safety on. ANY body kicking in my front door could regret it right quick.
As far as the longnose - this is the 2nd one I've kept in my sw career and he totally ignores everything but the buffet I provide - the first one was the same way too, I think the trick is to keep them fed, and have lots of pods that he can nip/snack on, which he does all day long.
Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///forum/thread/384145/bigger-is-better-lets-try-475-gallons-tangs-gonna-be-happy/260#post_3397072
if someone drives by your house they will think you are growing pot with all them dar lights :O)
i love the butterflyfish.he dont bother the corals?
LOL - It does look very suspiscous from the backyard, with the blue glow at night.... I really hope the local PD never mistakes this place for a grow house though - there's a loaded gun in every room in the house (except the bathrooms) and multiple AR15's placed here & there, All kept loaded/chambered with safety on. ANY body kicking in my front door could regret it right quick.
As far as the longnose - this is the 2nd one I've kept in my sw career and he totally ignores everything but the buffet I provide - the first one was the same way too, I think the trick is to keep them fed, and have lots of pods that he can nip/snack on, which he does all day long.
tangs rule
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Quote:
Originally Posted by usaspur http:///forum/thread/384145/bigger-is-better-lets-try-475-gallons-tangs-gonna-be-happy/260#post_3397223
this was a very enjoyable read this morning for me, great tank
Funny seeing all the salt delivered and the photos of the tank on the truck.
Those were good times! Glad you're up to speed - now it's just a waiting game on things to grow out.
Originally Posted by usaspur http:///forum/thread/384145/bigger-is-better-lets-try-475-gallons-tangs-gonna-be-happy/260#post_3397223
this was a very enjoyable read this morning for me, great tank
Funny seeing all the salt delivered and the photos of the tank on the truck.
Those were good times! Glad you're up to speed - now it's just a waiting game on things to grow out.
tangs rule
Active Member
Some New Frags and larger thingys
Just got this morning - 5 new corals, 2 feathers & some things.... Sadly the vendor called last nite and said the 2 specimens I wanted MOST could not ship (some large tabling acroporas - they were 6-8" and really pretty. Still pissed about that)
A very stunning chunk of Merulina Coral (Merulina ampliata) The little green eyes are VERY bright/florescent lime color and a stunning piece of sps - measures 6"x6"x4" (aka ruffled ridge coral)
A very large chunk of Green Eyed Cup (Mycedium sp.) 8" x 5"
A small plate coral - Blue with a green center 2" (Fungia sp.)
A frag of Red War coral (favites pentagona)
A LARGE Purple Plate coral with bright green tentacils (Fungia sp.) 6 inches diameter
This stuff is all in the 90g coral qtine tank, and will be there for a good month before I can move them over to the 475g.
Just got this morning - 5 new corals, 2 feathers & some things.... Sadly the vendor called last nite and said the 2 specimens I wanted MOST could not ship (some large tabling acroporas - they were 6-8" and really pretty. Still pissed about that)
A very stunning chunk of Merulina Coral (Merulina ampliata) The little green eyes are VERY bright/florescent lime color and a stunning piece of sps - measures 6"x6"x4" (aka ruffled ridge coral)
A very large chunk of Green Eyed Cup (Mycedium sp.) 8" x 5"
A small plate coral - Blue with a green center 2" (Fungia sp.)
A frag of Red War coral (favites pentagona)
A LARGE Purple Plate coral with bright green tentacils (Fungia sp.) 6 inches diameter
This stuff is all in the 90g coral qtine tank, and will be there for a good month before I can move them over to the 475g.