Flower's Sump/Fuge Build

2quills

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Shawn, how much of the tank is salvageable if any? And yes, glad you weren't hurt! I know how it can be when we get tired or exhausted and sometimes tend to get lackadaisical in remembering that we're working with hazardous equipment. It only takes a little scare like that to put things back into perspective real quick. I recently had to get a new flush trim bit myself because I used my old one so many times it kept slipping like that and I could no longer get it to tighten down like it should because the shaft had gotten worn down by the collet from times past when it wasn't tightened good enough. Stay safe, bud!
Flower, you can send me that info as soon as you like. I'll make sure I get all of the last minute kinks worked out and try to send it off probably this weekend or early next week. Just want to be sure that I've covered all the angles. Don't want to leave anything to chance if I can help it. Since my name and rep is on the line with this thing I want it to work right and for you to be happy with it.
 

flower

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380517/flower-s-sump-fuge-build/660#post_3323264
Shawn, how much of the tank is salvageable if any? And yes, glad you weren't hurt! I know how it can be when we get tired or exhausted and sometimes tend to get lackadaisical in remembering that we're working with hazardous equipment. It only takes a little scare like that to put things back into perspective real quick. I recently had to get a new flush trim bit myself because I used my old one so many times it kept slipping like that and I could no longer get it to tighten down like it should because the shaft had gotten worn down by the collet from times past when it wasn't tightened good enough. Stay safe, bud!
Flower, you can send me that info as soon as you like. I'll make sure I get all of the last minute kinks worked out and try to send it off probably this weekend or early next week. Just want to be sure that I've covered all the angles. Don't want to leave anything to chance if I can help it. Since my name and rep is on the line with this thing I want it to work right and for you to be happy with it.

Info is on it's way to you.
 

2quills

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Little bit of a pictorial before you head off to work, Flower. I had a friend stop by tonight who actually just picked up an eshopps overflow for his tank and wanted to borrow some glue and primer from me to put the pieces together. It's excactly the way yours will get glued together....

PVC Glule and Primer...about $7 for the two small cans...

Prime inside of the bulkhead...

Also prime the end of the pipe on our adapter....

After the primer has dried for a couple of minutes then glue the inside of the bulkhead and the pipe (just like the primer).

Once you get the glue on both pieces go ahead and push them together and hold for 15 seconds. Then let go...and you're done!
 

flower

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So that's what all that purple stuff is all over the PVC pipes I see.. LOL..I thought it was a chemical reaction to being glued. I will get what I need straight away tomorrow. Thanks for the pictures, I'm glad your buddy dropped by.
 

2quills

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Yep the purple stuff is the primer. You may however want to do it away from the carpet like I did. If you spill this stuff in the house it will stain. Good thing my wife wasn't looking.
 

meowzer

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380517/flower-s-sump-fuge-build/660#post_3323369
Had me worried for a minute there....
<--- coulda been me!
HEY Corey....doesn't she come on here....LOl....
you are in trouble....My motto is this, NEVER PUT IT IN WRITING

My hubby is not allowed on swf...LOL...to tell you the truth, by the time he figured it out we'd be dead

I,m jokin.....he even knows about Joe.....well....some ....NO WAY all, HEEHEE
jokin about that too
no I'm not
yes I am
ok....whatever....YUP...I'M BORED
 

2quills

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Yeah she does pop in from time to time. She knows about this thread too, my goose is cooked for sure! You're talking to a man who's livin on borrowed time. It was nice knowing ya'll!
 

acrylic51

Active Member

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380517/flower-s-sump-fuge-build/660#post_3323320
Little bit of a pictorial before you head off to work, Flower. I had a friend stop by tonight who actually just picked up an eshopps overflow for his tank and wanted to borrow some glue and primer from me to put the pieces together. It's excactly the way yours will get glued together....

PVC Glule and Primer...about $7 for the two small cans...

Prime inside of the bulkhead...

Also prime the end of the pipe on our adapter....

After the primer has dried for a couple of minutes then glue the inside of the bulkhead and the pipe (just like the primer).

Once you get the glue on both pieces go ahead and push them together and hold for 15 seconds. Then let go...and you're done!
 

acrylic51

Active Member
Thanks!!!! Actually I was back over in the shop this morning......Late for work, but actually we think the issue is with the collet itself.....My friend Mat was routing 2" thick material and had the bit walk......Luckily nothing came flying, but did give off a bad noise and vibration.....At times I rush, and think it'll be ok, and that's usually when disaster strikes.....Just like when I was cutting the real small molding trim pieces for my tank/stand.....Aaahhh you just need to take a bit off....Instead of using the clamps on the miter saw you figure you can hold the piece!!!!!
After that ordeal, not just once, but twice, it made my hand hurt so bad it felt like it had ripped my fingers off....Needless to say I never looked at my fingers or hand because it hurt so bad, but I didn't realize anything till I started noticing puddles of blood all over the garage floor!!!!! Then you wonder.....think.....
I was the only 1 out here, and then realization sets in that maybe you cut your fingers off idiot, and never looked and didn't feel it, because it was so numb.......
Luckily I got up enough courage to look at my hand and all fingers were in place, but it tore them from the cuticle back to the 2nd knuckle.....You wanna talk about hurt!!!!! Needless to say it either gets clamped or taken to the sander and sanded down.....
Corey, Flower I destroyed the euro bracing, and put a 3-3 1/2" hairline crack down the side.....The crack doesn't come the whole way through and can't feel it on the outside, but I know it's stressed, and that isn't worth taking the chance on, and if it would fail it would be that area.....Normally I don't glue the euro bracing on the route it out......Normally all cut outs, and holes are drilled before I glue up, but figured since I was in the fancy hi tech shop; I could easily set the machine up and go for gold.......Needless to say my buddy Matt who owns the shop has been leaving me bad messages, teasing me how I looked when that bit took off......

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380517/flower-s-sump-fuge-build/660#post_3323264
Shawn, how much of the tank is salvageable if any? And yes, glad you weren't hurt! I know how it can be when we get tired or exhausted and sometimes tend to get lackadaisical in remembering that we're working with hazardous equipment. It only takes a little scare like that to put things back into perspective real quick. I recently had to get a new flush trim bit myself because I used my old one so many times it kept slipping like that and I could no longer get it to tighten down like it should because the shaft had gotten worn down by the collet from times past when it wasn't tightened good enough. Stay safe, bud!
Flower, you can send me that info as soon as you like. I'll make sure I get all of the last minute kinks worked out and try to send it off probably this weekend or early next week. Just want to be sure that I've covered all the angles. Don't want to leave anything to chance if I can help it. Since my name and rep is on the line with this thing I want it to work right and for you to be happy with it.
 

flower

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Thanks for the tip Corey...LOL...As a woman I already knew to not do something like that on a carpet. I figured you did not do it on carpet but used a back drop, I thought the carpet was just the background of the finished project. I had to go back and look at the pictures. You told on yourself, she may let you live, because in your defense you did put something down.
Shawn,
I have seen men over the years cut themselves and keep on going...until now I never knew you guys are just afraid to look.

So anyway..the thing that you use to cut with is messed up? I don't know what a COLLET is but it sounds like an important part to be able to finish the project. Is it hard/expensive to fix or replace?
 

monsinour

Active Member
I believe the collet is the part that holds the router bit in place, kind of like the end of a drill.
As far as primer and PVC are concerned, what if you dont use the primer or get that primer + cement combo stuff? I only ask because I have a sump pump in my basement and the pvc that is out of the house fell apart and I recently fixed it. I bought the combo stuff and glued it all together and let it dry for 24 hours before testing it. It seems to work just fine and nothing has fallen apart yet. Not that I am suggesting to cut corners at all, but this glued connection is only used once in a while and I was wondering what the possible ill effects could be from cutting the corner. And no, I wouldnt take this chance with a tank connection that would have water going through it 24/7. Out of the 365 days in the year, water hits this connection about 10 of them.
 

acrylic51

Active Member
Flower it makes it hurt 100 times more when you look!!!!! The collet is a cheap and honestly is vital on this piece of equipment that you check the condition periodically. Of course you always figure just one more cut. Replacement collet is already in the machine!!!!
 

flower

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LOL...well I'm glad the machine was an easy fix, Its mazing how important a tiny part is.
My X husband fixed our Blazer once..I don't remember what he was doing to it exactly but it needed a cotter pin (I think he called it that) the old was a little bent. He fgured so what it still works and used it instead of getting another one....on the way to work the very next day all the lights on the dash came on...he drove 1/2 a block to the nearest filling station. When he got out of the car the drivers side was covered in oil where it had spewed from the engine, which had siezed up and now needed to be replaced. That 10 cent cotter pin Dan didn't replace caused $3,700.00 in replairs. I was sooo glad HE was the one driving when it happened, because I would never have heard the end of it if I had siezed up the engine.
 

acrylic51

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I just love tiny parts.....
Honestly a failure like that with the bit exposed could have been serious injury.....again luckily it was inside the the fuge.....And of course I'm very bad about wearing any eye protection.....I think that's the injury I fear the most is to the eye......The new collet cost $7.00 bucks....I know my router mounted to my table lets the bit walk, and I keep saying I'm getting a whole new setup, but I keep using it....I've actually chewed up a few nice pieces due to the bit walking.....NO FEAR......it can be rebuilt!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/380517/flower-s-sump-fuge-build/660#post_3323489

LOL...well I'm glad the machine was an easy fix, Its mazing how important a tiny part is.
My X husband fixed our Blazer once..I don't remember what he was doing to it exactly but it needed a cotter pin (I think he called it that) the old was a little bent. He figured so what it still works and used it instead of getting another one....on the way to work the very next day all the lights on the dash came on...he drove 1/2 a block to the nearest filling station. When he got out of the car the drivers side was covered in oil where it had spewed from the engine, which had seized up and now needed to be replaced. That 10 cent cotter pin Dan didn't replace caused $3,700.00 in repairs. I was sooo glad HE was the one driving when it happened, because I would never have heard the end of it if I had seized up the engine.
 

geoj

Active Member
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/380517/flower-s-sump-fuge-build/660#post_3323431

Thanks for the tip Corey...LOL...As a woman I already knew to not do something like that on a carpet. I figured you did not do it on carpet but used a back drop, I thought the carpet was just the background of the finished project. I had to go back and look at the pictures. You told on yourself, she may let you live, because in your defense you did put something down.
Shawn,
I have seen men over the years cut themselves and keep on going...until now I never knew you guys are just afraid to look.

So anyway..the thing that you use to cut with is messed up? I don't know what a COLLET is but it sounds like an important part to be able to finish the project. Is it hard/expensive to fix or replace?
They broke the man code and were punished for giving are secrets out.
 

2quills

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Flower, I'm going to be packing everything up tonight and I'll take it to the U.P.S. store on my lunch break tommorow. Question for ya...the adapter piece that will connect to the overflow, I may not connect it to the hose, I figure it will probably be better to leave it off so that you can cut the hose to the right length, is that ok with you? I'll give you some tips to make it easier to connect once you get it there. I just dont want to cut it too short or too long and then have you have to pull it apart and recut it again anyway.
 
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