Flower's Sump/Fuge Build

meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/380517/flower-s-sump-fuge-build/700#post_3325550
I didn't even notice Elmo in the background.....Actually it's my 18yr olds.....she's been an Elmo freak since little and still hasn't outgrown it....Every year I hunt the latest greatest Elmo gadget.....Sick isn't it.....Her little 1 could care less about Elmo which is weird.....
SICK
LOL...I don't think so...I have about 8+...and a mini one that hangs from my rear view mirror....HAHA....
I LOVE ELMO
 
acrylic51

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I'm following you..... I hate salt creep myself. I have to hit Lowes at lunch time tomorrow and pick up 8' of 1" schedule 80 pipe.....I love the gray, and they only carry it in 8' sections....
 
acrylic51

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I might have to dig the Mag 18 out and test drive this puppy before it leaves......Sorry Flower she might have a few miles on it by the time it reaches you.....I'm curious as to how much flow you can get through it......I'll have to buy a couple valves and some tubing to feed the sump and fuge, and have to shoot a video of it as well......
 
flower

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You're a true artist. To help complete the look, the stand is made of the same dark smoke acrylic as the refugium, drawing it all together and making it a matching set. My only regret is that it's too pretty to have to placed under the stand unseen....
LOL..you tortured me by making me wait?...I have been out of town since 4:30 to go see my kids and out of town family who came up here for my X Husband's funeral, so it was a very hard day...you cheered me up, I had sat down on the computer for maybe 2 minutes before you posted pictures.
Test drive away and show me the video....
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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I love using smoked acrylic.....to me a little tougher to glue for whatever reason....Probably, because you can't see what's going on as your working.....
You are correct....I had thought about the stand being done in smoke, and yes it does pull it all together with the smoke on the fuge....Bad thing about the smoke/black shows finger prints easily, and salt creep will be easy to spot.....
Guess you might have to get new doors fabbed on the stand to show it off.........
Right now I have it in the garage leak testing and have about 13 gallons in it just below the bulkheads where it won't run out onto my test bench......I might have to clamp the hoses down when I run the Mag 18 through this thing....I have a bad habit, of plugging in pumps, and hoses go flying, and water spraying everything it shouldn't spray....Never hits the junk stuff, only the expensive good stuff I need......Sorry though Flower Elmo stays here!!!!! Meowzer was eyeing Elmo!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/380517/flower-s-sump-fuge-build/720#post_3325562

You're a true artist. To help complete the look, the stand is made of the same dark smoke acrylic as the refugium, drawing it all together and making it a matching set. My only regret is that it's too pretty to have to placed under the stand unseen....
LOL..you tortured me by making me wait?...I have been out of town since 4:30 to go see my kids and out of town family who came up here for my X Husband's funeral, so it was a very hard day...you cheered me up, I had sat down on the computer for maybe 2 minutes before you posted pictures.
Test drive away and show me the video....
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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Flower as I had mentioned in an earlier post a big key was to make the installation as simple and painless as possible for you.....You will only need to do a couple things....probably the worst will be getting the sump stood on end and into the stand. The fuge should be able to be put into place exactly how it sits. When I ship you the sump/fuge, I won't have the bulkheads installed, so that is 1 job you'll have to do....It's very simple and straight forward. The grilled off section or O ring side will go inside the fuge. I don't want them installed during shipping in case it would get smacked, the bulkheads would/are a pressure point, and to eliminate the chance of it getting damaged.....The only other installation would be to glue the elbows into the back end of the bulkheads, but I'm questionable on that area. Honestly I don't believe they would actually need glued into place since they won't be under any type of pressure.....What is the consensus on that???? Corey, Posiden, the rest of you guys?????????? I will bag the bulkheads together, and there will also be a bag of rubble rock for the bubble chamber as well......
 
2quills

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Glue probably wouldnt be necissary if she can fit them together fairly snug. She'll need to pick up some glue for the overflows bulkhead so if worse comes to worse she can glue it if need be. Perhaps if she can glue a Spig x thread adapter she can glue the adapter to the bulkhead...have a short piece of pipe with a thread adapter glued to it...then just slip the 90 on there...since it will be over the return section at that point then if it leaks a little bit then thats ok. But that way she'd be able to take most of it apart if/when she ever needs to...if that makes sense.
 
acrylic51

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Makes good sense.....
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380517/flower-s-sump-fuge-build/720#post_3325575
Glue probably wouldnt be necissary if she can fit them together fairly snug. She'll need to pick up some glue for the overflows bulkhead so if worse comes to worse she can glue it if need be. Perhaps if she can glue a Spig x thread adapter she can glue the adapter to the bulkhead...have a short piece of pipe with a thread adapter glued to it...then just slip the 90 on there...since it will be over the return section at that point then if it leaks a little bit then thats ok. But that way she'd be able to take most of it apart if/when she ever needs to...if that makes sense.
 
flower

flower

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380517/flower-s-sump-fuge-build/720#post_3325575
Glue probably wouldnt be necissary if she can fit them together fairly snug. She'll need to pick up some glue for the overflows bulkhead so if worse comes to worse she can glue it if need be. Perhaps if she can glue a Spig x thread adapter she can glue the adapter to the bulkhead...have a short piece of pipe with a thread adapter glued to it...then just slip the 90 on there...since it will be over the return section at that point then if it leaks a little bit then thats ok. But that way she'd be able to take most of it apart if/when she ever needs to...if that makes sense.

I highlighted in red the Chinese parts, so before you box it up take a picture and explain it so I will know what it is. That first thingy makes no sense at all. I know what a thread is and an adapter I imagine makes on side larger or smaller
somehow that doesn't seem right and I can't even guess what a spig x adapter is.
Thank you for the little rocks, I was wondering if I had to take a hammer to a rock to get some to use, so now I don't even have to worry about that. The dark may show finger prints but it will help the little tiny critters who will live there to feel hidden and happy. That's the coolest sump in the world, its better looking than my fish tank.
I can't have any little leaks around the refugium output drains, there is a lip created from the euro brace (I think that's what you called it) around it and salt creep will accumulate there so a water leak won't drip directly into the sump. This page doesn't show a picture for me to double check...but it looked to me like the pipe made an L at the top to clear the lip.
Edit...after re-reading what Corey posted.
An adapter would have the pipe pushed out just a little further and I could glue that, then if the area I screw in leaks it would clear that lip, and if I ever had to clean it, I could remove it because it isn't attached permanently????
 
2quills

2quills

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Excactly, I know it sounds like a lot of mumbo jumbo up there but essentially if the green area in the picture could just screw in then you wouldn't have to glue the vertical piece to the elbow and you'd be able to take it apart in the future and clean it or move it if you ever had to. Honestly I don't think it would leak anyways because there is no pressure on the pipe at all.
 
acrylic51

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I'm following you Corey!!! Very disappointed in Home Depot. Ran out during my lunch for some fittings to convert the bulkheads to thread and for som schedule 80 pipe.... What a joke!!!! They don't carry schedule 80!!! Guess that's why Lowes gets and will continue to get my business....
 
2quills

2quills

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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/380517/flower-s-sump-fuge-build/720#post_3325756
I'm following you Corey!!! Very disappointed in Home Depot. Ran out during my lunch for some fittings to convert the bulkheads to thread and for som schedule 80 pipe.... What a joke!!!! They don't carry schedule 80!!! Guess that's why Lowes gets and will continue to get my business....
Yeah I don't even bother looking at home depot for plumbing parts down here unless I can't find it at lowes. Usually lowes is better for plumbing. And unfortunately none of the supply houses are open on weekends...grrrr. Oh man, I didn't tell ya...I always said to myself that I was going to be the guy to invent the worlds first open face racheting wrench. I seen at lowes yesterday somebody has come out with a wratcheting crescent wrench and they were already sold out.
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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I use my crescent wrenches for hammers.....An I have the expensive SnapOn stuff.....That's a cool idea...I have to check out the local Lowes tomorrow after work when I pick up the rest of the plumbing to see if they have them here....
 
meowzer

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You 2 would hate living here......LOL.....nowhere to find anything....even the HD and Lowes are skimpy on supplies...Lowes is 90 miles away...HD is almost 50
 
flower

flower

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Does this mean it isn't ready after all? Big sigh of disappointment....and yet I'm delighted you guys are trying to think of everything before hand to make things easy for me.
I'm so excited about this thing... I spent most of today extracting the pictures of the sump build and the Fantastic Coray Gizmo and the plumbing lines, then the refugim build... I even copied out the drawings Al&B did so I can keep it all in a scrap book.
This thread reads like a book and printed out it's about the size of one. That first post from Shawn to get things started was two pages long.
Meowzer...you may not have those stores near you, but then you have pet deer out in the back yard. Given a choice, I would rather have the pet deer.
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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Flower the sump/fuge is ready.....Currently as we speak it is still in the garage leak testing....The plumbing issue isn't a big deal at all. I just thought I'd run to Home Depot today at lunch time since it is right outside or gate here at work. I should have know it would be to easy to run in and out with what I needed. I will just have to hit Lowes after work tomorrow afternoon, and pick up the plumbing stuff I need, or what Corey had suggested, and were still on course for Monday shipment....That isn't chaning 1 bit.....Corey had mentioned a different route for the plumbing of the return lines from the fuge, and I like his idea instead of gluing, so I just need to small fittings to make that happen.....All is good
 
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