Michele Bachmann: Our First Female President?

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/80#post_3394860
I quoted the questions your phonetically challenged, jellyfish mind apparently missed.
Darth (I may need xanax, but I can still read) Tang
Why answer the questions? You apparently are the well-versed, all knowing political expert on this forum. Guess we'll be waiting for Michelle Bachmann to start walking on water next. Maybe she'll join Rick Perry at his Sunday Go To Meeting Revival in August, and they can discuss how they can further thwart those dreaded clinics that supposedly provide abortions. In mean, that has to be the most important thing that is happening in this country today. Seems like that's the only issue the House is concerned with.

 

[darthtang aw]

Why answer the questions?  You apparently are the well-versed, all knowing political expert on this forum.  Guess we'll be waiting for Michelle Bachmann to start walking on water next.  Maybe she'll join Rick Perry at his Sunday Go To Meeting Revival in August, and they can discuss how they can further thwart those dreaded clinics that supposedly provide abortions.  In mean, that has to be the most important thing that is happening in this country today.  Seems like that's the only issue the House is concerned with.
Apparently you missed where is said nope for her election bid. The reason I asked if you knew these answers......to prove you do not research on your own. You rely on half ass information and do not make a truly informed decision. Thus you further propogate the story without all the information.....

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/100#post_3395110
Apparently you missed where is said nope for her election bid. The reason I asked if you knew these answers......to prove you do not research on your own. You rely on half ass information and do not make a truly informed decision. Thus you further propogate the story without all the information.....
All I did was reiterate what petty much every major media outlet posted on the subject. I don't spend anymore time 'researching' tripe just to prove someone wrong. If the information that CNN, Fox, MSNBC, New York Times, or LA Times posted was incorrect or fabricated, go complain to them about shoddy research.
If you want to talk about 'truly informed decisions', why not talk about all these anti-liberals who get their 'facts' from these biased loons like Glenn Beck or Bill O'reilly. The problem with 'facts' today is that the internet has created this monster where anyone with a computer can throw some story onto a blog site or editorial page, and it automatically goes viral becoming some political fact that MUST be true. How exactly do you know that your research on Michelle Bachmann is factual? Where did your expert details and facts come from? The only way to undeniably prove how money was funneled to either this farm or clinic, is to see the tax returns, the bank transactions, and the exact flow of money from Point A to Point B. Unless you have that material in front of you, your 'sources; are no more reliable than mine.
Bionic (anyone with a computer is a political expert) Arm

 

[darthtang aw]

All I did was reiterate what petty much every major media outlet posted on the subject.  I don't spend anymore time 'researching' tripe just to prove someone wrong.  If the information that CNN, Fox, MSNBC, New York Times, or LA Times posted was incorrect or fabricated, go complain to them about shoddy research.
 
If you want to talk about 'truly informed decisions', why not talk about all these anti-liberals who get their 'facts' from these biased loons like Glenn Beck or Bill O'reilly.  The problem with 'facts' today is that the internet has created this monster where anyone with a computer can throw some story onto a blog site or editorial page, and it automatically goes viral becoming some political fact that MUST be true.  How exactly do you know that your research on Michelle Bachmann is factual?  Where did your expert details and facts come from?  The only way to undeniably prove how money was funneled to either this farm or clinic, is to see the tax returns, the bank transactions, and the exact flow of money from Point A to Point B.  Unless you have that material in front of you, your 'sources; are no more reliable than mine. 
 
Bionic (anyone with a computer is a political expert) Arm
 
I got the info from the same news stations. Difference is....I actually read the stories. I read the" minor" facts that these news stories just made little blurbs about. The questions I asked were answered in the stories, just not highlkghted. Why? Because that would make the story no longer a story...no extra digging was truly needed...just actual reading. Your own link answered two of my questions. You just conveniently ignored those facts of the story because they don't support your political stance regarding this lady.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/100#post_3395173
I got the info from the same news stations. Difference is....I actually read the stories. I read the" minor" facts that these news stories just made little blurbs about. The questions I asked were answered in the stories, just not highlkghted. Why? Because that would make the story no longer a story...no extra digging was truly needed...just actual reading. Your own link answered two of my questions. You just conveniently ignored those facts of the story because they don't support your political stance regarding this lady.
Exactly! I remember seeing the headline "Law Enforcement Supports Ritter" in the Denver Post. You'd think what, the police union or some officers group had endorsed his run for governor. But when reading the article you found it was the Denver District Attorney and two country prosecutors.
What cracks me up is Bionic mentioning Glenn Beck as putting out false information. I watched his show regularly until maybe 6 months ago and I think nearly every show he would encourage people to do their own homework rather than trust him. Perhaps if people who like to attack O'reilly and Beck would actually watch their show once they might learn something.

 

[darthtang aw]

 
Exactly! I remember seeing the headline "Law Enforcement Supports Ritter" in the Denver Post. You'd think what, the police union or some officers group had endorsed his run for governor. But when reading the article you found it was the Denver District Attorney and two country prosecutors.
 
What cracks me up is Bionic mentioning Glenn Beck as putting out false information. I watched his show regularly until maybe 6 months ago and I think nearly every show he would encourage people to do their own homework rather than trust him. Perhaps if people who like to attack O'reilly and Beck would actually watch their show once they might learn something.
 
 
Most people can't handle challenge.....

 

[bionicarm]

I see Michelle Bachmann is in hot water again for signing this "Marriage Vow" from some radical group called The Family Leader. Seems she didn't read the part in the pledge where it said Black children born into slavery had a better family structure than Black kids today living under Obama's rule. This group also admonishes and literally defames anyone that doesn't conform to a traditional marriage between a woman and a man. Bachmann just blindly signed away because of her homophobic ideologies.
On top of that, there's a report showing how Michelle Bachmann's clinic is accused of trying to "straighten out" gays by "praying away the gay". This woman has no business running for President. If she were elected, she'd send this country back to the 50's where minorities were admonished and treated like second-class citizens. We'd go back to the Spanish Inquisition days where people were killed and beheaded for not following religious edict.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/michele-bachmann-tops-mitt-romney-in-latest-iowa-poll.html

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/100#post_3396917
I see Michelle Bachmann is in hot water again for signing this "Marriage Vow" from some radical group called The Family Leader. Seems she didn't read the part in the pledge where it said Black children born into slavery had a better family structure than Black kids today living under Obama's rule. This group also admonishes and literally defames anyone that doesn't conform to a traditional marriage between a woman and a man. Bachmann just blindly signed away because of her homophobic ideologies.
On top of that, there's a report showing how Michelle Bachmann's clinic is accused of trying to "straighten out" gays by "praying away the gay". This woman has no business running for President. If she were elected, she'd send this country back to the 50's where minorities were admonished and treated like second-class citizens. We'd go back to the Spanish Inquisition days where people were killed and beheaded for not following religious edict.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/michele-bachmann-tops-mitt-romney-in-latest-iowa-poll.html
If it came down to her vs 0bama you can consider me a proud Bachmann voter.
How in the hell do you reach the conclusion she'd put minorities back to second class citizens? Can't you libs engage in a debate without playing the race card?

 

[darthtang aw]

If it came down to her vs 0bama you can consider me a proud Bachmann voter.
 
How in the hell do you reach the conclusion she'd put minorities back to second class citizens? Can't you libs engage in a debate without playing the race card?
 
I see Michelle Bachmann is in hot water again for signing this "Marriage Vow" from some radical group called The Family Leader. Seems she didn't read the part in the pledge where it said Black children born into slavery had a better family structure than Black kids today living under Obama's rule. This group also admonishes and literally defames anyone that doesn't conform to a traditional marriage between a woman and a man. Bachmann just blindly signed away because of her homophobic ideologies.

On top of that, there's a report showing how Michelle Bachmann's clinic is accused of trying to "straighten out" gays by "praying away the gay". This woman has no business running for President. If she were elected, she'd send this country back to the 50's where minorities were admonished and treated like second-class citizens. We'd go back to the Spanish Inquisition days where people were killed and beheaded for not following religious edict.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/michele-bachmann-tops-mitt-romney-in-latest-iowa-poll.html
Omg...you are what is wrong with this country.
The pact stated (and I am paraphrasing) that sadly, black children were more likely to grow up in a traditional home with a father and mother in the picture during the age of slavery than during the current times. ....that is what it said. Is this statement false? Did this statement demean anyone due to race? Did this statement blame the current problems on anyones race?
Darth (she still wont win) Tang
P.s. if she wins it will be because people such as yourself help keep her in the limelight. Had the conservatives not propped obama to beat hilary she would be in office now.

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/100#post_3397016
Omg...you are what is wrong with this country.
The pact stated (and I am paraphrasing) that sadly, black children were more likely to grow up in a traditional home with a father and mother in the picture during the age of slavery than during the current times. ....that is what it said. Is this statement false? Did this statement demean anyone due to race? Did this statement blame the current problems on anyones race?
Darth (she still wont win) Tang
P.s. if she wins it will be because people such as yourself help keep her in the limelight. Had the conservatives not propped obama to beat hilary she would be in office now.
First off. Why did they use Black people and Black Slavery as an example for "traditional family cohesiveness"? Why not Irish, Germans, Jewish, Italians? Naw, couldn't be a race thing.
You call a black slave that had absolutely no freedoms or rights, that was in some cases conceived by the White plantation owner as a "traditional home with a afather and a mother"? How many Black children did they finally figure were sired by Thomas Jefferson? I'm sure "Ole' Tom" spent a whole bunch of quality time with those children.

Bionic (Right Wingers still drinking the Kool-Aide) Arm

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/100#post_3396963
If it came down to her vs 0bama you can consider me a proud Bachmann voter.
How in the hell do you reach the conclusion she'd put minorities back to second class citizens? Can't you libs engage in a debate without playing the race card?
I'm talking about the homosexuals bright eyes. In her mind, "those people" don't deserve to be on this planet, much less have any rights.

 

[darthtang aw]

First off. Why did they use Black people and Black Slavery as an example for "traditional family cohesiveness"?  Why not Irish, Germans, Jewish, Italians?  Naw, couldn't be a race thing.
 
You call a black slave that had absolutely no freedoms or rights, that was in some cases conceived by the White plantation owner as a "traditional home with a afather and a mother"?   How many Black children did they finally figure were sired by Thomas Jefferson?  I'm sure "Ole' Tom" spent a whole bunch of quality time with those children.

 
 
Bionic (Right Wingers still blinded by ignorance) Arm
Sensationalize much?
Fact 72% of black children are raised in single parent homes.
Fact: That demographic has a higher percentage of violent criminals, inmates, drug abusers, and welfare recipriants, that the black demographic that is raised in two parental homes.
Fact no other race has a higher percentage of single mothers.
fact the next closest race of single mother homes cuts that number in half.
Fact most plantation owners did not father children with their slaves. (Stop watching movies)
The point, the black family structure was more intact back then. That is all......
Does this ask for a reversal of slavery...no.
As for thomas jefferson, there is strong evidence suggesting it was his brother.......but this is another discussion.
Darth (20/20 ignorance) Tang

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/100#post_3397046
I'm talking about the homosexuals bright eyes. In her mind, "those people" don't deserve to be on this planet, much less have any rights.
Because she doesn't want to change the definition of marriage she doesn't think they deserve to be on the planet?

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/100#post_3397056
Sensationalize much?
Fact 72% of black children are raised in single parent homes.
Fact: That demographic has a higher percentage of violent criminals, inmates, drug abusers, and welfare recipriants, that the black demographic that is raised in two parental homes.
Fact no other race has a higher percentage of single mothers.
fact the next closest race of single mother homes cuts that number in half.
Fact most plantation owners did not father children with their slaves. (Stop watching movies)
The point, the black family structure was more intact back then. That is all......
Does this ask for a reversal of slavery...no.
As for thomas jefferson, there is strong evidence suggesting it was his brother.......but this is another discussion.
Darth (20/20 ignorance) Tang
You gotta admit the Democrats chose the right figure (Jefferson) as the founder of their party. Forcing himself on a defenseless woman. How Bill Clinton of him

 

[darthtang aw]

You gotta admit the Democrats chose the right figure (Jefferson) as the founder of their party. Forcing himself on a defenseless woman. How Bill Clinton of him
 
 
 
In bills defense, monica was willing.......
Darth (wasn't gonna go there) Tang

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/100#post_3397063
Because she doesn't want to change the definition of marriage she doesn't think they deserve to be on the planet?
Did you read the article where her clinic tried to "pray the gay out" of a homosexual that tried using the facility? Major states are finally allowing same-sex couples to "marry" one another. Put Bachmann in office, and she'd do everything she could to reverse those laws. The economy goes down the tubes, unemployment stays rampant, and her main concern is worrying about the sanctity of a heterosexual marriage. This is the same woman whose admitted she's directed her entire life because "God told her so". "God told me to be a lawyer". "God told me raise multiple children." She's claimed that yes, she has actually talked to God. Being religious is one thing. Making political decisions based strictly on that faith that affect everyone is a different story.

 

[darthtang aw]

Did you read the article where her clinic tried to "pray the gay out" of a homosexual that tried using the facility?  Major states are finally allowing same-sex couples to "marry" one another.  Put Bachmann in office, and she'd do everything she could to reverse those laws.  The economy goes down the tubes, unemployment stays rampant, and her main concern is worrying about the sanctity of a heterosexual marriage.  This is the same woman whose admitted she's directed her entire life because "God told her so".   "God told me to be a lawyer".  "God told me raise multiple children."  She's claimed that yes, she has actually talked to God.  Being religious is one thing.  Making political decisions based strictly on that faith that affect everyone is a different story.
 
 
1....gay marriage is already illegal on the federal level. She has no control what the states wish to do within their own state. Civics 101, guess you slept that day in class. So no laws can be reversed. Way to sensationalize yet again.
2. Much of america is still against gay marriage...so it is an issue...like it or not.
3. She has spoken on the economy extensively....guess your daily news isn't reporting this.
4. Most americans have faith and faith plays a part in their decisions. Even obama has said faith has guided his decisions....that doesn't bother you though.
5. Your attacks against palin and bachmann are showing a sexist side. What is your problem with female leaders?
Darth (women are equal) Tang
P.s. since new york legalized gay marriage, many gay couples have lost benefits through their workplace. Why? Because they aren't married and must now do so to have those benefits reinstated. Things truly are equal now.

 

[bionicarm]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/100#post_3397056
Sensationalize much?
Fact 72% of black children are raised in single parent homes.
Fact: That demographic has a higher percentage of violent criminals, inmates, drug abusers, and welfare recipriants, that the black demographic that is raised in two parental homes.
Fact no other race has a higher percentage of single mothers.
fact the next closest race of single mother homes cuts that number in half.
Fact most plantation owners did not father children with their slaves. (Stop watching movies)
The point, the black family structure was more intact back then. That is all......
Does this ask for a reversal of slavery...no.
As for thomas jefferson, there is strong evidence suggesting it was his brother.......but this is another discussion.
Darth (20/20 ignorance) Tang
You'll sugarcoat this issue to avoid admitting this admission about Blacks and slavery being stuck into the "pledge" didn't have racial overtones. Where's you're "facts" that the same problems didn't occur, if they weren't worse, during times of slavery?
FACT - Many of black slave children were sold by the plantation owners for profit, punishment, or to pay debts
FACT - Half of all slave babies died in the first year of life--twice the rate for white babies
FACT - Children entered the labor force as early as 3 or 4. Some were taken into the master's house to be servants while others were assigned to special children's gangs called "trash gangs," which swept yards, cleared drying cornstalks from fields, chopped cotton, carried water to field hands, weeded, picked cotton, fed work animals, and drove cows to pasture.
Yeah, slave life for children was SO much better than it is for black children toay.
Bionic (Darth's nose is looking a little browner after following behind Michelle) Arm

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/100#post_3397098
1....gay marriage is already illegal on the federal level. She has no control what the states wish to do within their own state. Civics 101, guess you slept that day in class. So no laws can be reversed. Way to sensationalize yet again.
2. Much of america is still against gay marriage...so it is an issue...like it or not.
3. She has spoken on the economy extensively....guess your daily news isn't reporting this.
4. Most americans have faith and faith plays a part in their decisions. Even obama has said faith has guided his decisions....that doesn't bother you though.
5. Your attacks against palin and bachmann are showing a sexist side. What is your problem with female leaders?
Darth (women are equal) Tang
P.s. since new york legalized gay marriage, many gay couples have lost benefits through their workplace. Why? Because they aren't married and must now do so to have those benefits reinstated. Things truly are equal now.
I have no problems with women leaders that have brains. That leaves Palin and Bachmann out of the picture.
The "much of america" that hates gays you are referring to are the same one's that probably would wear KKK hoods if they had the chance. They fear anything or anyone that is different than them.
The only economic issues Bachmann speaks about are the same talking points every other Republican has. None of them provide solutions. They play the "blame game" and think cutting spending is the quick-fix cure all for our economic troubles. Again, tell me what jobs growth bills have come out of the House since the Republicans took over? Show me one bill that was introduced to the Senate that promotes job growth. What exactly has the House done in the last six months except say they will not agree to any tax increases, and passed legislation to defund Planned Parenthood?
Faith don't pay the bills. Last I've seen, faith can't even create jobs. Texans relied on Slick Rick's "faith" last April when he held one of his "Pray To End The Drought" revivals in Austin. Since that faithful day, Texas has fallen into one of the worst droughts in the last two decades. Yea, faith worked real well there. Obama said faith guided some of his decisions? When? Last I heard, no one could actualy confirm the guy even attended church on a regular basis, if at all.

 

[darthtang aw]

 
You'll sugarcoat this issue to avoid admitting this admission about Blacks and slavery being stuck into the "pledge" didn't have racial overtones.  Where's you're "facts" that the same problems didn't occur, if they weren't worse, during times of slavery? 
 
FACT - Many of black slave children were sold by the plantation owners for profit, punishment, or to pay debts
FACT - Half of all slave babies died in the first year of life--twice the rate for white babies 
FACT - Children entered the labor force as early as 3 or 4. Some were taken into the master's house to be servants while others were assigned to special children's gangs called "trash gangs," which swept yards, cleared drying cornstalks from fields, chopped cotton, carried water to field hands, weeded, picked cotton, fed work animals, and drove cows to pasture. 
 
Yeah, slave life for children was SO much better than it is for black children toay.
 
 
Bionic (Darth's nose is looking a little browner after following behind Michelle) Arm
 
No one said the slave life was better.......try paying attention and actually read what is stated.
All that was said is the family structure among black folks during that time was more intact. Do you deny this?
Darth (literate) Tang