Michele Bachmann: Our First Female President?

meowzer

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/60#post_3394562
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stdreb27

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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/60#post_3394553
I do not like O'Bama very much, BUT I have 4 kids...2 step-kids, 3 kid in laws (LOL) and 9 grandchildren.....sometimes I even forget their names

That really isn't the point, sure, with a microphone in your face EVERY day, you're going to butcher something. The issue is everyone ran around calling W, Bachmann Palin an idiot, for less than the crap that OBama has pulled...
 

darthtang aw

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I'll be in Cancun all next week at an all-inclusive resort. Throw some more liberal comments out then. The tequila shots and mojito's will be free.
If you check in at the site here, I will question the value of your trip.
Darth (wirefree when abroad) Tang.
 

reefraff

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Speaking of fools the White house actually called to complain when a analyst called 0bama a dick on the air. The guy apologized on the spot, the station suspended him but the white house still called to cry. What a bunch of pansies.
 

darthtang aw

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We are getting away from the subject. I don't care whi said what and messed it up how. I am still waiting for bionic to answer the questions I set forth regarding the subsidies.....since after all he is so worldly and well versed on such political subjects. I mean he wouldn't make an assumption off half the story would he?
Darth (still waiting) Tang
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/80#post_3394684
We are getting away from the subject. I don't care whi said what and messed it up how. I am still waiting for bionic to answer the questions I set forth regarding the subsidies.....since after all he is so worldly and well versed on such political subjects. I mean he wouldn't make an assumption off half the story would he?
Darth (still waiting) Tang
Farm subsidies that are shown she was paid. Payments to her husband's medical clinic. Just because it's not in the millions, you think it's no big deal. Once a back-door politician, always a back-door politician. You want her as POTUS, you can have her. Her mission is just to overturn anything Obama implemented. Problem is, she doens't offer squat in return. She'll be just like the other closed-minded Republicans. Economy is going down the tubes, and the only legislation the House can pass is limiting funds to Planned Parenthood because they're afraid they may abort a few Welfare, crack, or deformed babies. Maybe she'll be like Rick Perry and pray for her win. PRAISE THE LORD!
Bionic (get ready for the next Inquisition) Arm
 

bionicarm

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Does Republican = Fascist?
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the govern
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/80#post_3394727
Farm subsidies that are shown she was paid. Payments to her husband's medical clinic. Just because it's not in the millions, you think it's no big deal. Once a back-door politician, always a back-door politician. You want her as POTUS, you can have her. Her mission is just to overturn anything Obama implemented. Problem is, she doens't offer squat in return. She'll be just like the other closed-minded Republicans. Economy is going down the tubes, and the only legislation the House can pass is limiting funds to Planned Parenthood because they're afraid they may abort a few Welfare, crack, or deformed babies. Maybe she'll be like Rick Perry and pray for her win. PRAISE THE LORD!
Bionic (get ready for the next Inquisition) Arm
Facts can be a troubling thing to a liberal. Perhaps if you would open your own mind a little you'd see how foolish your claims look. Nothing new. Every time a liberal is threatened by a conservative you don't challenge their ideas, you call them stupid or put words in their mouth, or in this case flat out lie about their record. I've known some pretty over the top right wingers and NONE of them displayed the hate I see coming from nationally recognized Democrats on a daily basis.
I remember in 04 the left was talking about how dumb Bush was. Someone did a little digging and found Bush's grades at Harvard were slightly above Kerry's. "Oh, well Bush's rich daddy paid for his grades". LOL! never let reality get in the way of a good campaign tactic.
 

darthtang aw

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Farm subsidies that are shown she was paid.  Payments to her husband's medical clinic.  Just because it's not in the millions, you think it's no big deal.  Once a back-door politician, always a back-door politician.  You want her as POTUS, you can have her.  Her mission is just to overturn anything Obama implemented.  Problem is, she doens't offer squat in return.  She'll be just like the other closed-minded Republicans.  Economy is going down the tubes, and the only legislation the House can pass is limiting funds to Planned Parenthood because they're afraid they may abort a few Welfare, crack, or deformed babies.  Maybe she'll be like Rick Perry and pray for her win.  PRAISE THE LORD!
 
Bionic (get ready for the next Inquisition) Arm
 
Those weren't the questions I asked if you knew the answers to. Afraid to find out the truth? Will it hurt your talking points to learn those truths? I am not ignoring anything...in fact I heard this and did my own further research. So who is truly ignoring the issue?
Darth (logical) Tang
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/80#post_3394806
Those weren't the questions I asked if you knew the answers to. Afraid to find out the truth? Will it hurt your talking points to learn those truths? I am not ignoring anything...in fact I heard this and did my own further research. So who is truly ignoring the issue?
Darth (logical) Tang
Darth, go take your meds. You asked me "what subsidies". I told you. Or did every single news outlet in this country misinterpret the meaning of "farm subsidies" in relation to Bachmann and what she gave this farm her FIL owns? If the payments to her husband's health clinic aren't considered subsidies, what are they? Tell me what I need to "find out"? That she's some down-to-earth politician that will make a HUGE difference in this country if she's elected? You tell me, what exactly is her platform? Everytime I hear her on TV it's, "No more four years", "I will repeal Obamacare", blah, blah, blah. That's the typical Republican mantra. Criticize everything Obama has done, but talk in circles about what the alternatives are. The Republicans have had the majority in the House now for 8 months. What legislation have they passed regarding the economny or jobs? Again, the only thing I've seen them push is this Planned Parenthood attack.
Bionic (Darth can't find his Xanax) Arm
 

stdreb27

Active Member
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/80#post_3394733
Does Republican = Fascist?
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the govern
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
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11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
OR you could just go read the National Socialist German Workers' Party own platform, there really isn't any comparison to the right, other than they loved their country (in their own sick perverted way)... I'm to this day, trying to understand how something named Socialist workers party could somehow be espousing right wing ideology...
 

reefraff

Active Member
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/80#post_3394813
Darth, go take your meds. You asked me "what subsidies". I told you. Or did every single news outlet in this country misinterpret the meaning of "farm subsidies" in relation to Bachmann and what she gave this farm her FIL owns? If the payments to her husband's health clinic aren't considered subsidies, what are they? Tell me what I need to "find out"? That she's some down-to-earth politician that will make a HUGE difference in this country if she's elected? You tell me, what exactly is her platform? Everytime I hear her on TV it's, "No more four years", "I will repeal Obamacare", blah, blah, blah. That's the typical Republican mantra. Criticize everything Obama has done, but talk in circles about what the alternatives are. The Republicans have had the majority in the House now for 8 months. What legislation have they passed regarding the economny or jobs? Again, the only thing I've seen them push is this Planned Parenthood attack.
Bionic (Darth can't find his Xanax) Arm
Earth to Bionic, Earth to Bionic. Bachmann didn't give the farm anything, She wasn't a member of Congress until 6 years ago, the subsidies listed started 10 years ago at least. So much for back door politics LOL!
What I love is the attack over her husband's health clinic. How dare they accept payments from medicaid? Well, they treat medicaid patients. The same clowns who defended ACORN receiving federal funds even after being caught red handed breaking the law now criticize this clinic for taking payment (AT A REDUCED RATE) for treating medicaid patients.
 

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/40#post_3394056
Lmao...thought you didn't know......over how many years for the farm? Which years? When did her and her husband become partners in the llc farm? When did her father in law die leaving them in control? What percentage of their earning went to mother in law?.....what was the subsidy for? Does her husband own this clinic? Or is he essentially like a store manager? Does he have control when in comes to financial decisions for the clinic, or is it a shared responsibility.
You know, all the questions real journalists used to report...
I know these answers...as I did my own digging.....I don't expect you to though, as you enjoy being spoon fed mister "I am not a liberal, I am independant". Independent of something...that is for sure.
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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/thread/386391/michele-bachmann-our-first-female-president/80#post_3394813
Darth, go take your meds. You asked me "what subsidies". I told you. Or did every single news outlet in this country misinterpret the meaning of "farm subsidies" in relation to Bachmann and what she gave this farm her FIL owns? If the payments to her husband's health clinic aren't considered subsidies, what are they? Tell me what I need to "find out"? That she's some down-to-earth politician that will make a HUGE difference in this country if she's elected? You tell me, what exactly is her platform? Everytime I hear her on TV it's, "No more four years", "I will repeal Obamacare", blah, blah, blah. That's the typical Republican mantra. Criticize everything Obama has done, but talk in circles about what the alternatives are. The Republicans have had the majority in the House now for 8 months. What legislation have they passed regarding the economny or jobs? Again, the only thing I've seen them push is this Planned Parenthood attack.
Bionic (Darth can't find his Xanax) Arm
I quoted the questions your phonetically challenged, jellyfish mind apparently missed.
Darth (I may need xanax, but I can still read) Tang
 
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