NEED TO VENT part TWO

jaodissa

jaodissa

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I know I've posted this before but florida joe is scary. No way to beat around the bush. My first post on here I asked all the basic questions. Even after reading a book and all the main stickies on this forum. You know what he did. He just asked my questions right back at me. I had to identify what I though was going on with my cycle and even what a cycle was. He came back and explained to me why I was wrong and it was a great learning experience, but it didn't make him any less scary LOL! He's like the crappy teachers you hate in high school then grow up thanking cause they taught you something in what you thought was a screwed up method.
Setting up my new tank I still want to come rant over here "Why's my tank not cycling" "I want this done now" The only difference is now I know so I don't have to post it. I just want to post it. Maybe thats still my newbiness though. Excitement gets the best of all of us.
 
jaodissa

jaodissa

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Oh I had another thought. Sometimes it's not easy to find what your looking for and often times when you do find something its very broad. Im having a hell of a time trying to figure out how to feed my dwarf ponies. It seems everyone says you can't just feed your ponies one thing but then all the other food sources are impossible to keep supplies up. IDK things just aren't straightforward in this hobby and it takes a lot of work. People want and need support. I know I wish I could have someone explain step by step how in the world you set up a mysis shrimp tank. because other than dumping some shrimp in and feeding them Im clueless. (And not because I have not searched through books and the internet but because I can't find the information.) Having this forum and not feeling like your going to be attacked over asking the basic questions is a key way many of us started in the first place!
 
socal57che

socal57che

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Originally Posted by Xcali1985
http:///forum/post/3214993
You would tell someone with a FOWLR, No Skimmer, or Sump a completely different way of handling a situation than a person with a full Reef and all the gadgets. Sending someone on a wild goose chase to "find" a tank similar to his and similar problem is nearly impossible, and would lead to even more panic.
I do think that there should be a rule if you have a issue you need to list relevant tank parameters. Size, lbs of LR, Substrate, CUC, Sump, Fuge size, Life of the tank, life in the tank, corals, when problem started, pictures if possible etc.

Oh yeah!!
I was sad to see that this was now missing from profiles. Not everyone filled them in, but it gave a nice starting point for suggested remedies knowing what setup they had. I'd really like to see it come back.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/3215092

Oh yeah!!
I was sad to see that this was now missing from profiles. Not everyone filled them in, but it gave a nice starting point for suggested remedies knowing what setup they had. I'd really like to see it come back.
It's still there, only NOT in Internet Explorer.....I had to download firefox to be able to see the profiles correctly
 
btldreef

btldreef

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/3215092

Oh yeah!!
I was sad to see that this was now missing from profiles. Not everyone filled them in, but it gave a nice starting point for suggested remedies knowing what setup they had. I'd really like to see it come back.
It's almost like it should be a requirement, LOL
 
socal57che

socal57che

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3215094
It's still there, only NOT in Internet Explorer.....I had to download firefox to be able to see the profiles correctly
Great. I'm not dumping IE just to read profiles. Hey Mods...can we change this?
It sure would be nice if everyone could see this part of ppls profiles. Then we could push people to fill them in. Right now they're kinda worthless...to me anyway.
Oh, and I must disagree with Flower, here. Especially where water chemistry is concerned, you need to read. Also have a pocket guide to take to the store when looking for a new specimen. There will always be "something cool" that catches peoples eye. The LFS will tell them what they want to hear to get them to buy it. They get home and realize that it is completely incompatible. A pocket guide would allow them to make a more informed decision on the spot. Going home to look it up (or worse, looking up info while they are acclimating) means the specimen might be gone before they return to the LFS to buy it.
I'm a proponent of reading books...schools are filled with them.
 
cranberry

cranberry

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Originally Posted by Jaodissa
http:///forum/post/3215088
It seems everyone says you can't just feed your ponies one thing but then all the other food sources are impossible to keep supplies up. IDK things just aren't straightforward in this hobby and it takes a lot of work.
This is actually a big problem. People are regurging the "ideal". But there's a small percentage of people following their own advice in regards to some topics.
 
firefightremtp

firefightremtp

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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3215048
BTW just out of curiosity how many noobs do you think have taken the time to read the great threads aimed specifically for them in the new hobbyist section
I did, almost everything word for word... and have reread a lot of it too.
 
socal57che

socal57che

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Originally Posted by BTLDreef
http:///forum/post/3215099
It's almost like it should be a requirement, LOL

Indeed. If you feel the need to ask a question please take time to fill in your stock list, feeding and equipment. It only takes a minute and is worth the time when asking a question regarding your tank. Also, posting REAL test results with your question, not "my water is normal" or "paramaters are good"...those statements are worthless to me.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/3215112
Great. I'm not dumping IE just to read profiles. .
You don;t have to dump I.E. Just add firefox and open swf up in that
I have told swf about this, and they are working on it
 
firefightremtp

firefightremtp

Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/3215112
Great. I'm not dumping IE just to read profiles. Hey Mods...can we change this?
It sure would be nice if everyone could see this part of ppls profiles. Then we could push people to fill them in. Right now they're kinda worthless...to me anyway.
Oh, and I must disagree with Flower, here. Especially where water chemistry is concerned, you need to read. Also have a pocket guide to take to the store when looking for a new specimen. There will always be "something cool" that catches peoples eye. The LFS will tell them what they want to hear to get them to buy it. They get home and realize that it is completely incompatible. A pocket guide would allow them to make a more informed decision on the spot. Going home to look it up (or worse, looking up info while they are acclimating) means the specimen might be gone before they return to the LFS to buy it.
Meowzer said something regarding this that made me think. She said that "she rarely makes a purchase without consulting with her SWF.com family first." To be completely honest, that is what I love about this site. I have the ability to go find something that I like at a LFS and come back here and ask if it works and what yall's thought about it are. And, if I am wrong or totally off base, then I truly want to know that I am, why, and how I can correct it. I think this is called learning.

I'm a proponent of reading books...schools are filled with them.

~grace
 
socal57che

socal57che

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3215133
You don;t have to dump I.E. Just add firefox and open swf up in that
I have told swf about this, and they are working on it

How big is it? My machine is about to overload as it is....

I don't really want to add another browser just for SWF either.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/3215146
How big is it? My machine is about to overload as it is....

I don't really want to add another browser just for SWF either.
Sorry...I have no clue on the size...I have only added it to my computer at work so far too

Hopefully the issue will be fixed eventually and it will work in IE too
 
btldreef

btldreef

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/3215146
How big is it? My machine is about to overload as it is....

I don't really want to add another browser just for SWF either.
Firefox doesn't take up that much space and it's a much better system than IE anyways. I'd just dump IE if you're worried about space.
When websites are built 95% of them test for them to work with IE and Firefox, so you shouldn't have any issues.
 
socal57che

socal57che

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Originally Posted by FirefightrEMTP
http:///forum/post/3215140

Meowzer said something regarding this that made me think. She said that "she rarely makes a purchase without consulting with her SWF.com family first." To be completely honest, that is what I love about this site. I have the ability to go find something that I like at a LFS and come back here and ask if it works and what yall's thought about it are. And, if I am wrong or totally off base, then I truly want to know that I am, why, and how I can correct it. I think this is called learning.
~grace
The issue is that the LFS doesn't have that particular specimen, but has something similar. What do you do? Leave, research and hope it's still there in the morning, or pull out your pocket guide and see if the care and compatibility is the same as the specimen you came in looking for?
I just read that Flower actually does propose that people read books as suggested by her post in the books thread...actually regarding the very subject of choosing a specimen.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/3215162
The issue is that the LFS doesn't have that particular specimen, but has something similar. What do you do? Leave, research and hope it's still there in the morning, or pull out your pocket guide and see if the care and compatibility is the same as the specimen you came in looking for?
I just read that Flower actually does propose that people read books as suggested by her post in the books thread...actually regarding the very subject of choosing a specimen.
I have the marine fishes book.....It's a great book to have, but does not offer "personal" experiences
I like the "personal" side to all this too
 
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