New Phosban Reactor

[meowzer]

REALLY....You think that's too much food????? OMG when I feed them they act like they are freakin starving to death
Maybe I should cut a cube out you think?????
I will add a new phosphate kit to my every growing list

 

[acrylic51]

IMHO yes that's way to much......Some might call me extreme cause I feed every other day. Fish will eat to eat...... Maybe alternate your cubes every other day or something, they definitely don't need that much. Another thing you could do is even have some make up saltwater and aerate and add a small portion of of food to and see what your Phos reading is on that water sample after you feed.

 

[meowzer]

So you are saying to test the water with a piece of food in it

 

[aquaknight]

I don't think its too much food, but it's not a diet I would really suggest. Most of the frozen cubes are basically the same. A main filler/binder, and shrimp/krill/fish meal. What I would suggest, algae sheets should be the tangs main diet. Every day, some of the sheet. For everyone else, I would make the bulk of their diet, mysis and NLS (Spectrum) pellets. The pellets will allow you to use less vitamin supplement, as they have better retention. For the larger guys, use PE Mysis (Piscine Energetics), in combo with that Hikara mysis. Just make sure it's rinsed enough. And every other day, or every third day, use some fresh frozen stuff. Throw a scallop or two in a blender, and finely chop it up, but obviously don't pulverize it. Just a couple pulses.
The problem I have with suggesting feeding less, is that it's hard for people that might not known exactly what healthy body weights for most fish are. I've seen a lot a tangs with their ribs showing by people meaning to do well, but they just aren't feeding enough. A tank with a nuisance algae problem with fat-happy fish, is better then an algae free tank with starving fish.

 

[nikesb]

ive always fed my fish every other day or sometimes every 3 days, and theyve kept their weight. she could feed heavily if she were to venture into vodka dosing, zeovit, or something similar

 

[meowzer]

You think 6 cubes is feeding heavy???? They are not big cubes

 

[nikesb]

i would say so. i agree with acrylic, the only tanks ive seen that were able to keep phosphates low and were feeding 3 times a day (probably equivalent to what you feed) were running zeovit and really strong skimmers.

 

[meowzer]

so what should I feed????? I have a lot of things in that tank

 

[acrylic51]

With the issue of trying to get the Phos down to 0, and the export of nutrients I would almost guarantee is being handle quite efficiently with the skimmer issue. IMHO I believe most people do overfeed, and as NikeSB said you could get away with feeding every other day and not starve or malnurish your fish. People that do feed heavy; you will honestly see as stated that they do employ aggressive measures and controlling their levels either through zeovit or heavy skimming.

 

[meowzer]

So Zeovit is something you put in your filter???

 

[acrylic51]

Maybe some helpful information......zeovitusa.com/

 

[nikesb]

Zeovit is a really expensive method, but will work as long as you keep at it and make sure you're doing it correctly. Id probably opt for vsv method over zeovit just because of the cost of running zeo

 

[acrylic51]

Originally Posted by nikeSB
http:///forum/post/3278173
Zeovit is a really expensive method, but will work as long as you keep at it and make sure you're doing it correctly. Id probably opt for vsv method over zeovit just because of the cost of running zeo
Agree

 

[spanko]

29 biocube. Feed heavily once per day.
Bali tiger jawfish
Chalk bass
African flameback angel
Helfrichis firefish
Tailspot blenny.
Dose Vodka and amino acids daily
Dose Prodibio Nano pack weekly
Skim heavily
Phosphate and Carbon impregnated filter pads changed weekly
Filter floss changed daily
Chemipure Elite and Purigen changed every 6 months.
Undetectable nitrates and phosphates.
Aggressive measures as acrylic51 said.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/332430/spankos-bio-cube-what-in-posidens-name-is-he-up-to-now

 

[meowzer]

Is vsv the vodka method????

 

[nikesb]

vsv is vodka + sugar + vinegar

 

[meowzer]

Originally Posted by nikeSB
http:///forum/post/3278230
vsv is vodka + sugar + vinegar
Well I have read most of Henry's post as it has been occurring....I really don't know if that's for me.....
I mean if it was something you could just mix and add yeah....but all that drip and having to be perfect with the amount stuff ...
I will cut back the food by a cube or 2, I already sue the chemi-pure elite and change my floss every other day, and I also have a phospahte pad in my drip tray.....
My big thing now I guess is the skimmer issue.....is mine good enough

I really do not have a spare $600 lol....to buy another one at the moment either sighhhhhhh.....

 

[acrylic51]

I don't think the skimmer is very effective as far as the load you put on. Not saying it's not working and pulling some, but the main focus is getting your Phos down, and the skimmer isn't efficient. For that size tank, and the load. An ASM could/would run circles around the current skimmer, and you wouldn't spend $600.00.

 

[meowzer]

The ASM G-3 is rated for tanks up to 250G's and it is $340......
It says footprint 11 x 12 height 24"
The section for my skimmer is 12" deep by 6" wide..........not worried about the height except for the fact I would probably want it raised up some from the bottom....
I do not see where it says how deep it can be in the water

 

[acrylic51]

I ran mine 8"-10" of water, but you have to toy with the height to get it to optimum operation. That's where I think you might have to alter something with your sump to get any skimmer to perform, because of the water depth in that first chamber.