Posidens 29 Cube

posiden

posiden

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Originally Posted by jemshores
http:///forum/post/3158505
Just a thought...I run a Rio 1400 and K1 in my 24; which gives me an overwhelming amount of flow. Could a Rio 1700 fit inside your chambers? Its about 1" bigger (all around) and then use a K1 too, that will up your flow to around 800 gph. Also, I have read (but do not fully understand it all) about the scrubbers...do you think they might need a bigger water volume to be effective? Maybe the 29 is not large enough. When others have talked about them they always referred to their tanks being in the 125 range and larger re: scrubbers. IDK? Maybe a larger footprint is what is needed for them to be effective.

Hey jemshores,
I also run the Rio 1400 in my Bio Cube 29. I had to mod the tank for it to fit. I may be able to make the 1800 fit, I haven't ever looked at it though. I think/thought I had a good bit of flow in my tank. I have just about 20 times turnover. I have some faster spots and some slower spots. So, a powerhead might be a good addition or I may upgrade the second pump that I am running right now. I just hate the look of equipment in the display. I also hate with a passion, that big ugly piece of PVC in my tank right now.
On the scrubbers, No tank size doesn't matter. Just the size of the screen for the amount of gallonage. Mine as it is, is oversized. Not by too much but it is bigger then it needs to be. as for flow, they should have about 35GPH for every linear inch of screen. Mine exceeds this amount.
Thank you for your thoughts.
Feel free to post anymore you might have.
 
posiden

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Well I did a little more work tonight. A little pest controll. I used lemon juice tonight for the first time. I figured it would be eaiser on the peperment shrimp if they should get into a Aiptasia that has been treated.
I also decided to go topless with the tank, at least for now. I have another light fixture for a 20L that I am not using. It is a dual PC 130Watt light. It looks a little funny on there as it is too long. It will work for now. I hope I don't burn any corals.

Here is the FTS. You see my lights are more blue.

A closer shot of the rock to show the absence of the pests. At least for now. We shall see how many come back tomorrow.


One of the peperments has already molted since going in on sunday. I saw one of them while I was cleaning the Aiptasia up, giving them a head start.
 
santamonica

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Well, the scrubber is a pretty simple device. I can't imagine I have too much wrong.
Plenty can happen until you've been through it.
You know my build.
I don't recall seeing it.
I am even a member on the scrubber site.
I don't see a Posiden there.
"You don't need to manually remove anything, or do lights out. After enough algae has grown and been removed from your screen, the display will be clean."
Correct. Has worked this way hundreds of times.
However, it looks like you are not really looking for help. The fellow on this thread who invited me to post here probably knew this. Good luck.
 
posiden

posiden

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Originally Posted by SantaMonica
http:///forum/post/3158639
Plenty can happen until you've been through it.
I don't dbout that. Most things are that way the world over.
I don't recall seeing it.
As I mentioned that you probly don't recall it due to the number of builds that you see.
I don't see a Posiden there.
No, you probly don't. I don't go by Posiden there. My thread is on page 5 out of 7 there. That is why I mentioned the fact that mine started out using a tile, like the one kcress is doing right now. I followed your thread on the big site. I followed your thread on reef f r o n t i e r s. Those got closed. Some time went by before I decided to join the scrubber site. Your thread here is actually one of the reasons I joined SWF.
Correct. Has worked this way hundreds of times.
Lucky me to be the one that it doesn't work for.
However, it looks like you are not really looking for help. The fellow on this thread who invited me to post here probably knew this. Good luck.

If you are refering to who I think you are, they are the one who inspired me to do this thread. I had no idea of the notification you recieved.
I am looking for help. It was very hard for me to post my tank looking this way. I didn't post it when it was new, or when it was looking super nice. It looks like crap. I was hoping that my thread would become usfull to others. How to treat problems and turn things around. It doesn't look like that will be the way of it though. Maybe that is my fault. I came off like an a s s. I am not known for my couth.
It would also look like I blew a very generous gift from someone who cares and is trying to help me more then I know.
I apologize too the both of you.
 
spanko

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So it was me who invited Santa Monica to come in. I was hoping that he could give some insight on the scrubber, what you have done wrong and what you have done correctly and what changes if any he could see you making to enhance its performance.
Don't get discouraged here with the thread Posiden. You are providing a great service here to both new and old members. It always helps to open up conversation on problems to see what everyone is doing or has done under the same or similar conditions. Keep it up please.
Santa Monica, I did not invite you here for anything but your input on the scrubber as it relates to Posiden's concerns. You have many threads over many sites and I am sure you have gained some knowledge from them all over the time they have been up, as well as been bashed in some I have seen. As you know some things work for some and not for others, just the way the universe flows me thinks. I would ask that you also do not get discouraged here and keep posting your experience with this system and some, if any, changes Posiden could make to enhance its performance. I know there are others here that have utilized the scrubber and am relatively sure they would like some more knowledge about what can go wrong and how to fix it.
Just my $0.02!
 
posiden

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Thank you Spanko, I really appericeate all your help and the drive you have shown. You are the catalyst of this thread.
I knew it was you, I just didn't know if you wanted to be made out. It was very nice of you to bring help into my thread.

So tonight I had to treat some of the Aiptaisa that came back from yesterday. I wonder if people just say what they used to treat these guys and not how many treatments that are needed. I thought after reading the remedies for them, it would just be a treat it and done kinda thing. It would not appear so. This is the first time I have used lemon juice to treat this. Can anyone who has "proper" experience shed a little light on the technique? I have been spraying them a bit, they will then freeze and get stiff so I then stab them with the syringe and inject some inside of them.
I am also going to feed the fish tonight since they haven't eaten since sunday. I was trying to get the peps to get going on thier other food source.
I also added two gallons of water to my tank lastnight to add some more volume. I have removed those two gallons as of today. IDK why I did it. I just thought it would be a good thing to do.
 
posiden

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3159184
I did lemon juice 2x...it came back :( so GOOD QUESTION
HOE MANY TREATMENts?????

Hi meowzer

When you treated yours, did they come back full, or was it missing some of the tenticals? I am trying to figure out if it is the treatment or the pepermints that are causing this. Not that I mind they are only part way whole. Just curious what is causing it.%%
I am also interested in who you are calling a HOE.LOL
 
meowzer

meowzer

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LOL...I meant HOW .....The first time Itreated it, it was gone over 2 weeks....it came back the same....the 2nd time, it stayed gone a few days....looks the same to me
I have no clue :(
 
posiden

posiden

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3159674
LOL...I meant HOW .....The first time Itreated it, it was gone over 2 weeks....it came back the same....the 2nd time, it stayed gone a few days....looks the same to me
I have no clue :(

I was giving you a hard time.
I know I spell bad.
So it must be the shrimp then.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/3159698
I was giving you a hard time.
I know I spell bad.
So it must be the shrimp then.

I think the peps are keeping any new ones away maybe....IDK what the heck happened with this one
 
spanko

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From saltaquarium.....
Items Needed:
* 1 Bottle or squeeze dispenser of Lemon Juice From Concentrate.
* One 3ml Latex Free Syringe with a 0.5mm x 16mm needle. Your local pharmacist can provide you with the syringe and needle for about a half a dollar. Don't be surprised if your pharmacist asks you a few questions as to what you plan to use the syringe/needle for.
Procedure:
1. Remove the syringe and attached needle from the wrapper.
2. Twist the needle cover to tighten on the syringe.
3. Remove the needle cover. Shake the bottle (or dispenser) of lemon juice.
4. Fill the syringe with 3ml lemon juice by inserting the needle into the lemon juice and pulling back on the syringe plunger.
5. Insert the needle into (not through) the base (not the top) of the anemone.
6. Inject about .5ml of the lemon juice into the anemone. Withdraw the needle and proceed to the next one.
7. When you are finished, disassemble the syringe/needle, rinse in clean freshwater, dry, reassemble and store for future use.
Tips:
* As with any sharp instrument, use caution when handling it and keep it out of the reach of children.
* When you insert the needle into the anemone, it will normally withdraw, making the lemon juice still quite concentrated in the anemone tube. It is not unusual to see a white puff or string of white material emit from the anemone when you inject the juice.
* A steady hand is needed to insert the needle into the anemone tube. The smaller the anemone, the more difficult the task. You may want to let the smaller anemones grow to a size which makes the task easier.
* The small amount of lemon juice being used shouldn't affect the pH of your tank water, and if you have a fair amount of current in your tank the localized increased pH should disperse rapidly and have no affect on surrounding reef life. Ironically, when the lemon juice is injected into the anemone tube, the critter will close up and shrink, temporarily sealing the juice inside the tube.
* If you have a very large population of aiptasia present, as a precautionary measure to prevent any possible pH imbalance from lemon juice overload, it is best NOT to treat them all at one time. Choose a small section of the tank to do first, wait several days to be sure all is well with the aquarium water quality, then move on and treat the next section.
 
posiden

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So I did some water tests, here they are.
Amm=0
trites=0
trates=0
ph=8.2
kh=9.5dkh
cal=460
phates=0
salinity=1.025
temp=78 F. Seems to run a tad cooler without the top. I will have to adjust that. No worries.
This is how my water always tests.(minus the temp, I like it at 80F) It has been this way since after the first two months of it running. Either I am gifted or keeping water in balance just isn't that hard to do. I have had others test my water because it runs so consistant. They always get the same results, unless thier kits are a bit more accurate. Like the Lamotte, I had it tested for Nitrates and Phosphates by a guy at work who got a 2.2 on trates with the Lamotte and a 0.5 (I think it was, it has been a while)on the phates using the Elos kit. I use the API, I know they are good for getting close but, after seeing what others get I didn't worrie too much after that. Any opinions on this??
Here are two pics just to show,

 
meowzer

meowzer

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I uesed this type of syringe...and I used 1 ML of lemon juice
Attachment 233481
I do have a needle syringe available to me (from horses)..do you think it would be better to use that????
 
posiden

posiden

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Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3159700
From saltaquarium.....
Items Needed:
* 1 Bottle or squeeze dispenser of Lemon Juice From Concentrate.
* One 3ml Latex Free Syringe with a 0.5mm x 16mm needle. Your local pharmacist can provide you with the syringe and needle for about a half a dollar. Don't be surprised if your pharmacist asks you a few questions as to what you plan to use the syringe/needle for.
Procedure:
1. Remove the syringe and attached needle from the wrapper.
2. Twist the needle cover to tighten on the syringe.
3. Remove the needle cover. Shake the bottle (or dispenser) of lemon juice.
4. Fill the syringe with 3ml lemon juice by inserting the needle into the lemon juice and pulling back on the syringe plunger.
5. Insert the needle into (not through) the base (not the top) of the anemone.
6. Inject about .5ml of the lemon juice into the anemone. Withdraw the needle and proceed to the next one.
7. When you are finished, disassemble the syringe/needle, rinse in clean freshwater, dry, reassemble and store for future use.
Tips:
* As with any sharp instrument, use caution when handling it and keep it out of the reach of children.
* When you insert the needle into the anemone, it will normally withdraw, making the lemon juice still quite concentrated in the anemone tube. It is not unusual to see a white puff or string of white material emit from the anemone when you inject the juice.
* A steady hand is needed to insert the needle into the anemone tube. The smaller the anemone, the more difficult the task. You may want to let the smaller anemones grow to a size which makes the task easier.
* The small amount of lemon juice being used shouldn't affect the pH of your tank water, and if you have a fair amount of current in your tank the localized increased pH should disperse rapidly and have no affect on surrounding reef life. Ironically, when the lemon juice is injected into the anemone tube, the critter will close up and shrink, temporarily sealing the juice inside the tube.
* If you have a very large population of aiptasia present, as a precautionary measure to prevent any possible pH imbalance from lemon juice overload, it is best NOT to treat them all at one time. Choose a small section of the tank to do first, wait several days to be sure all is well with the aquarium water quality, then move on and treat the next section.

Very nice spanko! Thank You!!

It would appera that I need to change up my approach. I have been going through the tops of them. I am also not putting in a half a mil into each one. However, on a good note. I have seen the white stringy stuff, so I must have got them.
 
spanko

spanko

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You do know that you can get zero phophate readings but still have phosphate in the tank, it is just being used quickly by the algae.
Lois reading the post above it says a 3ml Latex Free Syringe with a 0.5mm x 16mm needle. It also says to inject the juice into (not through) the base, not the top of the Aiptasia.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3159708
You do know that you can get zero phophate readings but still have phosphate in the tank, it is just being used quickly by the algae.
Lois reading the post above it says a 3ml Latex Free Syringe with a 0.5mm x 16mm needle. It also says to inject the juice into (not through) the base, not the top of the Aiptasia.
YEAHH....It may be difficult to get to the base though.....I'll give it a shot this weekend I guess...
LOL...give it a shot...haha....get it
 
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