fishkeepingpro
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so what do you check on the tap water to see if its safe??? if it is safe, do you put conditioner in it, then put the water the tank after siphening the tank?
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travelerjp98
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Originally Posted by fishkeepingPRO http:///t/389371/shark/200#post_3443618
so what do you check on the tap water to see if its safe??? if it is safe, do you put conditioner in it, then put the water the tank after siphening the tank?
First off, if you can, use RO water, even more preferably RO/DI water...
To test your tap water to see if its safe, get a TDS meter. TDS stands for total dissolved solids.
If the TDS measures water that's not too bad.... then you'll be absolutely fine just conditioning your water for now, without any corals.
You lost me on why you would siphon the tank?
Originally Posted by fishkeepingPRO http:///t/389371/shark/200#post_3443618
so what do you check on the tap water to see if its safe??? if it is safe, do you put conditioner in it, then put the water the tank after siphening the tank?
First off, if you can, use RO water, even more preferably RO/DI water...
To test your tap water to see if its safe, get a TDS meter. TDS stands for total dissolved solids.
If the TDS measures water that's not too bad.... then you'll be absolutely fine just conditioning your water for now, without any corals.
You lost me on why you would siphon the tank?
fishkeepingpro
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i mean when you clean the tank and remove water. do u you add tap water if its safe?
travelerjp98
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Originally Posted by fishkeepingPRO http:///t/389371/shark/200#post_3443655
i mean when you clean the tank and remove water. do u you add tap water if its safe?
Remove all the water from the tank???!!!!
Originally Posted by fishkeepingPRO http:///t/389371/shark/200#post_3443655
i mean when you clean the tank and remove water. do u you add tap water if its safe?
Remove all the water from the tank???!!!!
bang guy
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If you're going to clean the tank by siphoning out detritus then that water needs to be replaced with saltwater.
Freshwater is used to replace evaporated water (topoff). What did the EPA say about your tap water? I recommend against using water conditioners. Just aerate the water for a day or so before using it to let the chlorine evaporate out. Does your tap water contain chlorine or chloramine?
Freshwater is used to replace evaporated water (topoff). What did the EPA say about your tap water? I recommend against using water conditioners. Just aerate the water for a day or so before using it to let the chlorine evaporate out. Does your tap water contain chlorine or chloramine?
fishkeepingpro
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how do you find out what it contains?
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saxman
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Chloramine can't be bubbled off the same way as chlorine, so you'd want to use a neutralizer.
The way you find out is to call your water provider and ask them for a report, or if you just want to know if they use chlorine or chloramine, they may be able to tell you right off the bat.
The way you find out is to call your water provider and ask them for a report, or if you just want to know if they use chlorine or chloramine, they may be able to tell you right off the bat.
fishkeepingpro
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i went on their website and this is the chloramine report.
Substance (units) Year
Sampled MCL MCLG
Missouri River Meramec River Compliance
Achieved Typical Source
Results Range Low-High Results Range Low-High
2,4-D (ppb) 2010 70 70 0.02 ND – 0.2 ND ND Yes Runoff from herbicide used on row crops
Antimony (ppb) 2010 6 6 0.13 ND – 0.5 0.05 ND – 0.4 Yes Discharge from petroleum refineries; Fire retardants;
Ceramics; Electronics; Solder
Arsenic (ppb) 2010 10 0 0.2 ND – 1.0 ND ND Yes Erosion of natural deposits; Runoff from orchards; Runoff
from glass and electronics production wastes
Atrazine (ppb) 2010 3 3 0.2 ND – 0.4 ND ND Yes Runoff from herbicide used on row crops
Barium (ppm) 2010 2 2 0.02 0.01 – 0.04 0.03 0.02 – 0.06 Yes Discharge of drilling wastes; Discharge from metal refineries;
Erosion of natural deposits
Chloramines (ppm) 2010 TT NA 2.4 1.9 – 3.1 2.4 1.3 – 3.1 Yes Water additive used to control microbes
Combined radium (pCi/L) 2007 5 0 0.2 ND – 1.3 0.5 ND – 1.6 Yes Erosion of natural deposits
Di(2-ethylhexyl)phthalate (ppb) 2010 6 0 0.1 ND – 0.7 ND ND Yes Discharge from rubber and chemical factories
Fluoride (ppm) 2010 4 4 1 0.9 – 1.1 1.0 1.0 – 1.1 Yes Erosion of natural deposits; Water additive which promotes
strong teeth; Discharge from fertilizer and aluminum factories
br />Nitrate (as N) (ppm) 2010 10 10 1.6 1.2 – 2.0 0.4 0.1 – 0.6 Yes Runoff from fertilizer use; Leaching from septic tanks,
sewage; Erosion of natural deposits
Nitrite (as N) (ppm) 2010 1 1 0.01 ND – 0.03 0.01 ND – 0.02 Yes Runoff from fertilizer use; Leaching from septic tanks,
sewage; Erosion of natural deposits
Selenium (ppb) 2010 50 50 1.2 ND – 3.0
Substance (units) Year
Sampled MCL MCLG
Missouri River Meramec River Compliance
Achieved Typical Source
Results Range Low-High Results Range Low-High
2,4-D (ppb) 2010 70 70 0.02 ND – 0.2 ND ND Yes Runoff from herbicide used on row crops
Antimony (ppb) 2010 6 6 0.13 ND – 0.5 0.05 ND – 0.4 Yes Discharge from petroleum refineries; Fire retardants;
Ceramics; Electronics; Solder
Arsenic (ppb) 2010 10 0 0.2 ND – 1.0 ND ND Yes Erosion of natural deposits; Runoff from orchards; Runoff
from glass and electronics production wastes
Atrazine (ppb) 2010 3 3 0.2 ND – 0.4 ND ND Yes Runoff from herbicide used on row crops
Barium (ppm) 2010 2 2 0.02 0.01 – 0.04 0.03 0.02 – 0.06 Yes Discharge of drilling wastes; Discharge from metal refineries;
Erosion of natural deposits
Chloramines (ppm) 2010 TT NA 2.4 1.9 – 3.1 2.4 1.3 – 3.1 Yes Water additive used to control microbes
Combined radium (pCi/L) 2007 5 0 0.2 ND – 1.3 0.5 ND – 1.6 Yes Erosion of natural deposits
Di(2-ethylhexyl)phthalate (ppb) 2010 6 0 0.1 ND – 0.7 ND ND Yes Discharge from rubber and chemical factories
Fluoride (ppm) 2010 4 4 1 0.9 – 1.1 1.0 1.0 – 1.1 Yes Erosion of natural deposits; Water additive which promotes
strong teeth; Discharge from fertilizer and aluminum factories
br />Nitrate (as N) (ppm) 2010 10 10 1.6 1.2 – 2.0 0.4 0.1 – 0.6 Yes Runoff from fertilizer use; Leaching from septic tanks,
sewage; Erosion of natural deposits
Nitrite (as N) (ppm) 2010 1 1 0.01 ND – 0.03 0.01 ND – 0.02 Yes Runoff from fertilizer use; Leaching from septic tanks,
sewage; Erosion of natural deposits
Selenium (ppb) 2010 50 50 1.2 ND – 3.0
travelerjp98
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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/389371/shark/200#post_3443907
I suggest a RO filter.
+1... fishkeepingPRO's public water is pretty bad...
I'm lucky that mine is pretty good!
Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/389371/shark/200#post_3443907
I suggest a RO filter.
+1... fishkeepingPRO's public water is pretty bad...
I'm lucky that mine is pretty good!
fishkeepingpro
Member
Ok. How many layers of filtration do you suggest for a starter tank? Could I keep a clown trigger in a 75 solo? Jw
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saxman
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Altho it SOUNDS like a big tank, you need to realize that a 75 gal tank is NOT considered a large tank by any means, but you keep asking about "large-tank" fish to put in it...there's that research thing again. What you need to consider is adult size of the fish, their swimming habits, and aggressiveness (which BTW, the smaller the tank, the more aggression will show up, typically speaking). A clown trigger can max out at about 20" in the wild, so figure about 75% of that for a captive fish (that still puts the fish at about 16"). FWIW, a CT should be in about a 125 gal.
fishkeepingpro
Member
Ok thanks. Would a 3 layer filtration RO unit work for my 75?
bang guy
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Originally Posted by fishkeepingPRO http:///t/389371/shark/200#post_3444014
Ok thanks. Would a 3 layer filtration RO unit work for my 75?
A 3 stage would be adequate - sediment - carbon - RO. Many people add a DI as a 4th stage to completely remove the Phosphates & Silicates that can leak through the RO filter. Additional pre-filter stages are usually additional sediment and carbon filters.
Originally Posted by fishkeepingPRO http:///t/389371/shark/200#post_3444014
Ok thanks. Would a 3 layer filtration RO unit work for my 75?
A 3 stage would be adequate - sediment - carbon - RO. Many people add a DI as a 4th stage to completely remove the Phosphates & Silicates that can leak through the RO filter. Additional pre-filter stages are usually additional sediment and carbon filters.
fishkeepingpro
Member
What does the unit hook up to?
travelerjp98
Active Member
You sink/faucet.
fishkeepingpro
Member
Then how does that work with the tank exactly?
travelerjp98
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Originally Posted by fishkeepingPRO http:///t/389371/shark/200#post_3444031
Then how does that work with the tank exactly?
One end hooks up to your sink... then it gets filtered out.. then you have clean water on the other end that you can use....
Originally Posted by fishkeepingPRO http:///t/389371/shark/200#post_3444031
Then how does that work with the tank exactly?
One end hooks up to your sink... then it gets filtered out.. then you have clean water on the other end that you can use....
fishkeepingpro
Member
Ok cool. So is a pair of maroons, foxface, and a flame angel a food starter tank?
travelerjp98
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Originally Posted by fishkeepingPRO http:///t/389371/shark/200#post_3444036
Ok cool. So is a pair of maroons, foxface, and a flame angel a food starter tank?
Lol... a "food" starter tank.
And, yes, you could do that combination of fish....
Originally Posted by fishkeepingPRO http:///t/389371/shark/200#post_3444036
Ok cool. So is a pair of maroons, foxface, and a flame angel a food starter tank?
Lol... a "food" starter tank.
And, yes, you could do that combination of fish....