What exactly is God's plan?

flower

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393378/what-exactly-is-gods-plan/100#post_3500282
It's people with the same attitudes as Bachmann that scare me. Why do you think the Republicans lost this election? It was Republican's flaunting their social beliefs (which are based on their religious/Christian principles), that scared away those independent voters. Women were scared to death of the likes of Mourdock and Akin, and they saw Romney eschew the same principles. Believing in God on a personal level is one thing. Making professions about one's faith to the world is open to criticism. I got into a religious discussion with some friends the other day, and one of them piped up and said his family has attended church for years, and he even plays guitar for the church choir. Before he made that statement, I would've never guessed in my wildest dreams he was a religious person. That's because he keeps his faith PERSONAL.
I don't get why religious people get so offended when someone challenges their faith. They're logical questions that can't be answered. So you get defensive on the basis because you essentially have no defense against the questions.
First...I bet you knew your FRIEND was a musician.... because music is what he/she likes to talk about. You didn't know he/she was religious because they were not. Many people attend "church" or whatever religious building they go to for many reasons, and while if you ask said person if they BELIEVE in God they will say yes, but they are not devoted enough to really care to ever talk about it. So said person was not keeping their religion personal, God just wasn't enough on their mind to bother.
As to your next statement: I don't know if you have ever been around kids, but there is a fun game some of them play and it's called ask "but why???"
and no matter how many times you answer, the kid keeps repeating "BUT WHY?????" it's annoying as hell, and no matter how you answer it...they can keep asking the same question, not because they want an answer but because they WANT to annoy you. Simply because it's fun for them and the angrier you get the more they like it. So now you know why people who discuss religion with you get annoyed. It isn't because you are really asking for an explanation, which I myself have attempted to answer in the case of anyone else reading the post, I do so in the hope they might get their interest peeked or learn something new. I know you don't give a rats behind no matter the answer...you just want to annoy them with a perpetual BUT WHY????? because you know it's an important subject to a devoted follower, and you can bug them.
Obama won by a very small margin, the people were very close to 50/50 I don't think the loss had anyhing to do with religion.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/393378/what-exactly-is-gods-plan/120#post_3500295
First...I bet you knew your FRIEND was a musician.... because music is what he/she likes to talk about. You didn't know he/she was religious because they were not. Many people attend "church" or whatever religious building they go to for many reasons, and while if you ask said person if they BELIEVE in God they will say yes, but they are not devoted enough to really care to ever talk about it. So said person was not keeping their religion personal, God just wasn't enough on their mind to bother.
As to your next statement: I don't know if you have ever been around kids, but there is a fun game some of them play and it's called ask "but why???"
and no matter how many times you answer, the kid keeps repeating "BUT WHY?????" it's annoying as hell, and no matter how you answer it...they can keep asking the same question, not because they want an answer but because they WANT to annoy you. Simply because it's fun for them and the angrier you get the more they like it. So now you know why people who discuss religion with you get annoyed. It isn't because you are really asking for an explanation, which I myself have attempted to answer in the case of anyone else reading the post, I do so in the hope they might get their interest peeked or learn something new. I know you don't give a rats behind no matter the answer...you just want to annoy them with a perpetual BUT WHY????? because you know it's an important subject to a devoted follower, and you can bug them.
Obama won by a very small margin, the people were very close to 50/50 I don't think the loss had anyhing to do with religion.
Actually, he never mentioned playing a guitar. He is proficient at drinking beer, and plays a pretty mean Texas Hold 'Em poker game...
That's your interpretation. The question keeps getting asked because you can't answer the question. The question wouldn't be asked if you didn't keep bringing it up. My friend never discusses religion, and I don't ask. The people I do know who are religious, don't flaunt their religious views around me, so I never asked them the questions either.
 

darthtang aw

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Actually, he never mentioned playing a guitar.  He is proficient at drinking beer, and plays a pretty mean Texas Hold 'Em poker game...
That's your interpretation.  The question keeps getting asked because you can't answer the question.  The question wouldn't be asked if you didn't keep bringing it up.  My friend never discusses religion, and I don't ask.  The people I do know who are religious, don't flaunt their religious views around me, so I never asked them the questions either.
Flower didn't bring up religion. A question was asked about Religion and she answered from her personal Belief. She did not start this thread nor has she EVER started a religious thread. Those that start religious threads tend be those asking to prove it. Like you.
You interjected yourself asking for proof. which has nothing to do with the discussion. Then you interjected politics, which had nothing to do with the original discussion.
So who is pushing what on who?
 

flower

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393378/what-exactly-is-gods-plan/120#post_3500305
Actually, he never mentioned playing a guitar. He is proficient at drinking beer, and plays a pretty mean Texas Hold 'Em poker game...wow, he sounds sooo religious, and you really think he doesn't talk about God because he is being considerate? Come on...really?
That's your interpretation. The question keeps getting asked because you can't answer the question. The question wouldn't be asked if you didn't keep bringing it up. My friend never discusses religion, and I don't ask. The people I do know who are religious, don't flaunt their religious views around me
, so I never asked them the questions either. Bring it up???...you are aware that you are posting on a religious question thread, aren't you?...What exactly is God's plan?...that is a question, so how are WE flaunting our religious views upon you, by answering the OP?
LOL...But Why?
Seriously...Do you really think I go around preaching at everyone? I mean, what are you calling "flaunting religious beliefs"? When a person asks a question, the other is expected to give an answer. The thread starter is asking a question...What exactly is God's plan? Sooo...why did you even bother to post on this thread, if you didn't want to consider our point of view on the subject? I personally have not posted concerning religion on a question about fish tanks or fish..not in the years I have been a member, even once started a religious thread. I join in and answer questions, also I give my opinions when I am asked...I get on these threads because I enjoy the banter of our different views on religion. I enjoy arguing my point and opinions, and then anxiously waiting to see what response I will get....But why are YOU here?
If you ask a kid why he is screaming in the middle of the night ...he might tell you there is a monster under his bed. If you look and show him no monster, he will say the monster left. I say that to point out that regardless weather or not you believe there was ever a monster...the child had in fact answered the question.
True you have asked your question many times, and we each of us have given you our perspective on it and answered you. Still you keep saying..But why can't you answer me? We have all given you an answer, and yet you keep asking for an answer. I told you my proof and what convinces me, so has Beth...just like the example of the kid with a monster under the bed...HE saw it! But his report was not believed....so what else can the kid do..the physical proof has long past and left.
Every time we answer with OUR reasons for believing...you say that's dumb and ask again the same question declaring we have not answered you. Darth even offered some first hand experiences and you declared they were on acid trips.
So why don't you just call us crazy and walk away? You came to our turf remember...we were not bothering you at all by "flaunting our religion"
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/393378/what-exactly-is-gods-plan/120#post_3500314
LOL...But Why?
Seriously...Do you really think I go around preaching at everyone? I mean, what are you calling "flaunting religious beliefs"? When a person asks a question, the other is expected to give an answer. The thread starter is asking a question...What exactly is God's plan? Sooo...why did you even bother to post on this thread, if you didn't want to consider our point of view on the subject? I personally have not posted concerning religion on a question about fish tanks or fish..not in the years I have been a member, even once started a religious thread. I join in and answer questions, also I give my opinions when I am asked...I get on these threads because I enjoy the banter of our different views on religion. I enjoy arguing my point and opinions, and then anxiously waiting to see what response I will get....But why are YOU here?
If you ask a kid why he is screaming in the middle of the night ...he might tell you there is a monster under his bed. If you look and show him no monster, he will say the monster left. I say that to point out that regardless weather or not you believe there was ever a monster...the child had in fact answered the question.
True you have asked your question many times, and we each of us have given you our perspective on it and answered you. Still you keep saying..But why can't you answer me? We have all given you an answer, and yet you keep asking for an answer. I told you my proof and what convinces me, so has Beth...just like the example of the kid with a monster under the bed...HE saw it! But his report was not believed....so what else can the kid do..the physical proof has long past and left.
Every time we answer with OUR reasons for believing...you say that's dumb and ask again the same question declaring we have not answered you. Darth even offered some first hand experiences and you declared they were on acid trips.
So why don't you just call us crazy and walk away? You came to our turf remember...we were not bothering you at all by "flaunting our religion"
Are you saying religious people don't drink and play poker? Must not know many Caholics...
I simply interjected with a postering of why even bother looking for God's plan, when he doesn't exist in the first place. Seem to pop a few corks...
 

farsight32

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Are you saying religious people don't drink and play poker? Must not know many Caholics...
I consider myself a religious person. And I play poker. Does this mean I am a Catholic? (I never knew!)
But I don't drink, so am I a Mormon?
I must say I find it very hard to live within your snarky generalizations.
 

beth

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I think bionic is so bothered by any discussions about faith that he just can't help himself by interjecting his contrariness into such topics that he supposedly gives no credence to.
No one is seeking you out to convert you, bionic.
No one is saying you can't say that you don't believe in anything, but we just wonder why you keep prodding and poking at us for something that, according to you, is pointless--Faith. Your only purpose is to try and sound so clever, when really you just seem more like an ass.
 

acrylic51

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393378/what-exactly-is-gods-plan/120#post_3500301
If you look at the voter demographics it was the Ghetto, the Barrio and Girls Gone Wild that pushed 0bama over the top

Get over it!!!!! Bottom line Romney lost.....Doesn't matter if it was 1 point or 10000 he lost and the majority spoke.......The comment or statement of Ghetto, Barrio and Girls Gone Wild is offensive.....It's really bordering the line with me.....I've seen quite a bit of this crap where people seem to talk down or consider these people "less".....
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/393378/what-exactly-is-gods-plan/120#post_3500295
First...I bet you knew your FRIEND was a musician.... because music is what he/she likes to talk about. You didn't know he/she was religious because they were not. Many people attend "church" or whatever religious building they go to for many reasons, and while if you ask said person if they BELIEVE in God they will say yes, but they are not devoted enough to really care to ever talk about it. So said person was not keeping their religion personal, God just wasn't enough on their mind to bother.
As to your next statement: I don't know if you have ever been around kids, but there is a fun game some of them play and it's called ask "but why???"
and no matter how many times you answer, the kid keeps repeating "BUT WHY?????" it's annoying as hell, and no matter how you answer it...they can keep asking the same question, not because they want an answer but because they WANT to annoy you. Simply because it's fun for them and the angrier you get the more they like it. So now you know why people who discuss religion with you get annoyed. It isn't because you are really asking for an explanation, which I myself have attempted to answer in the case of anyone else reading the post, I do so in the hope they might get their interest peeked or learn something new. I know you don't give a rats behind no matter the answer...you just want to annoy them with a perpetual BUT WHY????? because you know it's an important subject to a devoted follower, and you can bug them.
Obama won by a very small margin, the people were very close to 50/50 I don't think the loss had anyhing to do with religion.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/393378/what-exactly-is-gods-plan/120#post_3500352
Get over it!!!!! Bottom line Romney lost.....Doesn't matter if it was 1 point or 10000 he lost and the majority spoke.......The comment or statement of Ghetto, Barrio and Girls Gone Wild is offensive.....It's really bordering the line with me.....I've seen quite a bit of this crap where people seem to talk down or consider these people "less".....

Calm down Francis, You want to talk about being talked down to? How about the constant cracks from the liberal elite about uneducated rednecks who vote Republican or anyone who opposes the 0ssiah must be racist. But I will say I do consider the girls gone wild demographic less.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393378/what-exactly-is-gods-plan/120#post_3500354
Calm down Francis, You want to talk about being talked down to? How about the constant cracks from the liberal elite about uneducated rednecks who vote Republican or anyone who opposes the 0ssiah must be racist. But I will say I do consider the girls gone wild demographic less.
Go take a look at the semi-riot at Mississippi State and Hampden-Sydney College in Virginia after they announced Obama was re-elected. "Uneducated rednecks"? You need to watch Pelosi's video that she took in The South. Hilarious to say the least...
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Beth http:///t/393378/what-exactly-is-gods-plan/120#post_3500349
I think bionic is so bothered by any discussions about faith that he just can't help himself by interjecting his contrariness into such topics that he supposedly gives no credence to.
No one is seeking you out to convert you, bionic.
No one is saying you can't say that you don't believe in anything, but we just wonder why you keep prodding and poking at us for something that, according to you, is pointless--Faith. Your only purpose is to try and sound so clever, when really you just seem more like an ass.
No, I just think they're pointless. How about opening a thread titles "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?" Discussing that and religion is pretty much synonymous.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393378/what-exactly-is-gods-plan/120#post_3500415
Go take a look at the semi-riot at Mississippi State and Hampden-Sydney College in Virginia after they announced Obama was re-elected. "Uneducated rednecks"? You need to watch Pelosi's video that she took in The South. Hilarious to say the least...
Did you see the one Pelosi did on New Yorkers? She picked out just as dumb people there.
By the way, did you see where you Texans are about to get another Bush in your government?
 

beth

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393378/what-exactly-is-gods-plan/120#post_3500416
No, I just think they're pointless. How about opening a thread titles "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?" Discussing that and religion is pretty much synonymous.
And yet, you are here, time and again, posting pointless-ness every other post, in a what you consider a pointless topic. What does that say about you? That you're comments are pointless?
 

flower

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393378/what-exactly-is-gods-plan/120#post_3500416
No, I just think they're pointless. How about opening a thread titles "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?" Discussing that and religion is pretty much synonymous.
LOL...Pointless as always, and yet you somehow entertain me....as all little children do.
As to what comes first the chicken or the egg...According to the first book of scripture...I would say the chicken, because Hashem created each of the creatures, and told them to go forth and multiply.
 
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